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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    May be.. could be... might be.... could one do start to...

    wow... I'm scared.

    This, btw...

    ...is 100% worthy of conspiracy theory status.

    Essentially, in your mind, corporations are evil. Only the Democrats are pure as the driven snow.

    Do us a favor... stay in your own little world.
    The thing is they are. They are diluting the voice of the American people with their money.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The thing is they are. They are diluting the voice of the American people with their money.
    Please tell me you are kidding.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The thing is they are. They are diluting the voice of the American people with their money.
    I am still waiting for SOMEONE to show me evidence that foreign money is being used to influence US elections on ANY level. All I have seen so far is accusations. Not a single shred of evidence.

    Show me something that categorically PROVES foreign money is being used to influence US elections, and I'll be right there with you.

    If the Democrats cannot actually PROVE what they are saying, they should simply shut up and find another way to maintain their majority. A legitimate way.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I am still waiting for SOMEONE to show me evidence that foreign money is being used to influence US elections on ANY level. All I have seen so far is accusations. Not a single shred of evidence.

    Show me something that categorically PROVES foreign money is being used to influence US elections, and I'll be right there with you.

    If the Democrats cannot actually PROVE what they are saying, they should simply shut up and find another way to maintain their majority. A legitimate way.
    Axelrod got busted on NBC when they asked him to prove it and he couldn't.
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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Axelrod got busted on NBC when they asked him to prove it and he couldn't.

    Exactly, although I think it was CBS, and by Schiefer no less.....You just can't get any more a partisan hack host to a Sunday show than Bob Schiefer and he had Axlerod flailing and twisting like he was 10 years old.


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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    May be.. could be... might be.... could one do start to...
    Try "almost certainly is."

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    wow... I'm scared.
    The Chamber of Commerce sure seems to be, now that people are asking questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    This, btw...

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour
    A pack of corporations anonymously ganging up on American democracy
    ...is 100% worthy of conspiracy theory status.
    Let me understand this: A factually correct statement is a "conspiracy theory" because you find the terminology morally judgmental?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Essentially, in your mind, corporations are evil.
    A corporation is just a tool, and it has legitimate uses. But organizations like the Chamber of Commerce represent people who abuse corporations to undermine the civic foundations of this country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Only the Democrats are pure as the driven snow.
    They seem ethical enough to piss off the Chamber of Commerce.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Do us a favor... stay in your own little world.
    Who is "us"?

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Myth: The U.S. Chamber is spending foreign money on political activities. ... that labor unions and their allies far outspend business on election efforts. .... Unions - 12.4% percent of employees at foreign companies in the U.S. are ...
    Myth vs. Fact: Foreign Money and Political Spending | U.S. Chamber of Commerce
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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I am still waiting for SOMEONE to show me evidence that foreign money is being used to influence US elections on ANY level. All I have seen so far is accusations. Not a single shred of evidence.

    Show me something that categorically PROVES foreign money is being used to influence US elections, and I'll be right there with you.

    If the Democrats cannot actually PROVE what they are saying, they should simply shut up and find another way to maintain their majority. A legitimate way.
    The FEC has been asked for exactly that. The C of C may not have to answer for who their donors are, but they will need to prove, thru reasonable accounting practices, that foreign donations have not been used to purchase political ads.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2010/1/the-chamber-and-foreign-contributions/

    Until the FEC completes its investigation, your demand for proof is unreasonable. Lack of proof at this point doesn't make the accusation illegitimate, since the C of C does accept donations from foreign corporations. It is the C of C that must provide proof to the FEC, NOT the Dems to you.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Myth: The U.S. Chamber is spending foreign money on political activities. ... that labor unions and their allies far outspend business on election efforts. .... Unions - 12.4% percent of employees at foreign companies in the U.S. are ...
    Myth vs. Fact: Foreign Money and Political Spending | U.S. Chamber of Commerce
    Are you seriously trying to vindicate the Chamber of Commerce by citing their own unsourced claims? If so, then allow me to indulge in this game myself. Fact: I am a 7-foot-tall satyr married to Scarlett Johansson. Hmm, apparently making the claim didn't make it so. Oh well.
    Last edited by Troubadour; 10-12-10 at 01:46 PM.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    Their response to having this pointed out has been predictable.
    so have the msm's, altho obama is so alien to american politics he obviously didn't see it coming

    time mag---over his head, insular, isolated, arrogant and clueless

    ny times---no evidence CoC's collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual, the afl-cio and sierra club and nra have international affiliations and take in money from foreign entities while pushing political causes in the us, more than 160 pac's set up by corporations are based overseas

    cbs---is that all ya got?

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    if you're more worried that our elected leadership may be being unfair to these companies by asking questions about them, that's certainly your prerogative
    LOL!

    asking questions?

    where ya been, the WHITE HOUSE and the DEMOCRATIC NATL COMMITTEE are doing quite a bit more about this nefarious use of foreign money by the chamber of commerce to "steal our democracy" than the mere asking of questions

    is that all ya got?

    no mention of last friday's jobs report, for example?

    seeya at the polls

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