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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Yeah you cite one extreme case and it's a problem everywhere. Riiiight! Bad, bad unions! We had a case in our area where a girl fabricated a sexual advance by a teacher. Thank God there was a union and he was provided legal representation. The girl admitted to making it all up.

    That school system and area of the country has had problems forever and continues to have problems but that doesn't mean it's everywhere.
    You're right, there aren't widespread abuses... the media is just honing in on certain things. I will say though, that education standards are slipping. The curricula are not up to par with modern information and understanding most of the time, and learning environments are not being upgraded to be more dynamic.

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    Don't get your heart set on a private school automatically being better. My step kids went to a private school and the faculty was the worst I'd ever seen.
    Then it was your fault for not selecting an appropriate school, or transferring them when the situation got bad. Private schools function based on market rules and so the best schools get the best demand, and in turn the most funding from tuition payees. You shouldn't have given a school your money that wasn't up to spec.

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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Then it was your fault for not selecting an appropriate school, or transferring them when the situation got bad. Private schools function based on market rules and so the best schools get the best demand, and in turn the most funding from tuition payees. You shouldn't have given a school your money that wasn't up to spec.
    And, you're very much at fault for making assumptions about what course of action we took.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, you're very much at fault for making assumptions about what course of action we took.
    If you took them out of the school, great; if you didn't, then your critique of the school isn't relevant.

    You made your market choice. If I select a private school for my kids I will investigate my options thoroughly.

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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    If you took them out of the school, great; if you didn't, then your critique of the school isn't relevant.

    You made your market choice. If I select a private school for my kids I will investigate my options thoroughly.
    A more inteligent response to my initial post would have been: so, how did you handle it? If I may ask. Rather than just making assumptions. Would have made for a much easier conversation.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    If you took them out of the school, great; if you didn't, then your critique of the school isn't relevant.

    You made your market choice. If I select a private school for my kids I will investigate my options thoroughly.
    Perfect market choices exist only in an economists wet dream. At the bare minimum, geographic location severely cuts down on the number of viable options, wealth is probably also a limiting factor. You also have to weigh the impact of moving schools on the kids social lives. I don't know what situation apdst was in, but it certainly wasn't a simple choice like you are making it out to be.

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    Everything is one way or no way with the guy. No room for compromise. For crying out loud if I said "I saw this guy turn water into wine, walk on water, and talk to God and now I live my life based on his teachings" he'd tell me I was crazy.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Yeah you cite one extreme case and it's a problem everywhere. Riiiight! Bad, bad unions! We had a case in our area where a girl fabricated a sexual advance by a teacher. Thank God there was a union and he was provided legal representation. The girl admitted to making it all up.

    That school system and area of the country has had problems forever and continues to have problems but that doesn't mean it's everywhere.
    What's the best place to go for drugs, in almost any community?

    Why that's your local middle and high schools.
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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Yeah you cite one extreme case and it's a problem everywhere. Riiiight! Bad, bad unions! We had a case in our area where a girl fabricated a sexual advance by a teacher. Thank God there was a union and he was provided legal representation. The girl admitted to making it all up.

    That school system and area of the country has had problems forever and continues to have problems but that doesn't mean it's everywhere.
    You cite one extreme positive case and suddenly unions are a good thing in every situation. Riiight Unions are always so fantastic. We had a case in our school where despite the fact that one of our teachers was highly intolerant of religion and mistreated students that had a religious background we couldn't get rid of her. Thank Goodness there was a Union there to stop us from making our school a more tolerant and fair place. The teacher even admitted to her bias.

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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    You cite one extreme positive case and suddenly unions are a good thing in every situation. Riiight Unions are always so fantastic. We had a case in our school where despite the fact that one of our teachers was highly intolerant of religion and mistreated students that had a religious background we couldn't get rid of her. Thank Goodness there was a Union there to stop us from making our school a more tolerant and fair place. The teacher even admitted to her bias.
    Most private schools are biased the other way. I'm sure he/she was not fired because she did not mistreat/single out the students. It is legal to have a bias. An intolerant teacher at my high school during my senior year verbally tormented me from March till May DAILY because I didn't want to stand for the pledge of allegience after we went to war in Iraq. On another occasion I had been told I will go to hell by a trustee at Marquette University because I complained about my campus being unnavigable due to crosses placed inches next to each other across the entire lawn. Downtown Milwaukee. The only grass in site. Covered. To prove a point, yes, but at my expense.

    I was told that I would burn for eternity in torment in despair because I wanted to walk to the University Center from my dorm without tripping.

    The point? Well, other than the fact that you also quoted him saying "but that doesn't mean it's everywhere," the point is you don't have a point.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: 2 Investigators: School System Ignored Safety Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Unbelievable!!!! What the Hell? This kind of crap goes on in an elementary school and the teachers can't be touched, but the parents and children can be victimized? What have we come to?

    You all want the problem with Unions? here is one big one!


    j-mac
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    i invite the OP to copy and post the portion of that story which said anything about the union's involvement in this incident
    i don't see it
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