Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 23

Thread: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

  1. #1
    Liberal Fascist For Life!


    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:18 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    93,358
    Blog Entries
    2

    Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director - Yahoo! News

    AP-2:45pm- In another White House shake up, President Barack Obama on Friday announced that his national security adviser, Gen. James Jones, was stepping down after helping to shape the foreign policy for nearly two years. Tom Donilon, Jones' deputy, will take over as the top security adviser.

    Obama hailed Jones, a lifelong military man before his White House post, as a "dedicated public servant and a friend to me." The president turned over the job to Donilon, a workhorse figure in the White House who brings to the job a long background of Democratic politics and diplomacy.
    It looks like Obama is going for a thorough shakeup of his staff.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

  2. #2
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    a very important development, thank you for posting it

    the real meaning of these positions and personalities is more along the lines of obama entrenching himself even more among those with whom he feels comfortable, his almost adamant reluctance to bring in outsiders, his doubling down on his own management style, his rejection of any need to redirect his white house

    Jones’ resignation had been rumored for months, amid reports he struggled to fit in with the Obama team from the start of the administration.

    He reportedly had friction with Donilon and with the president’s closest advisers – including senior advisor David Axelrod, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and former chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.
    Defense Secretary Robert Gates has told associates that Donilon’s appointment to NSA would be a disaster, according to journalist Bob Woodard's recently published book, “Obama’s Wars.”

    Administration officials, speaking over the last month, have said that Donilon’s ascent could lead Gates, a Republican holdover from the Bush administration who has developed a good rapport with Obama, to make an early exit from the Pentagon. Donilon, Woodward reported, was deeply skeptical of the military’s chain of command – and the feeling was mutual, with many commanders viewing Donilon as a politically-connected dilettante who was in over his head.

    According to Woodward, Jones clashed with members of Obama’s inner circle – whom he derisively nicknamed ”waterbugs” – and complained about limited access to the president. Emanuel, Woodward wrote, was especially close to Donilon, and would walk past Jones’ office to relay Oval Office requests directly to Donilon, irritating Jones to the point he personally confronted Emanuel.

    Jones also seemed skeptical of Donilon last year, advising him to travel to Iraq and Afghanistan – something his deputy hadn’t done before – while telling him to tone down his opinions of military leaders and NSC staffers.
    Tom Donilon to replace James Jones as National Security Council chief - Carol E. Lee and Gordon Lubold - POLITICO.com

    out of respect for fair use, let me try to summarize the remaining gist put forth by lubold and lee

    jones' replacement at nsc, donilon, is the "ultimate insider" who began as a CAMPAIGN guy for jimmy carter and ended up obama's "debate coach" on foreign policy matters

    he was also the chief vetter on the transition team overseeing foggy bottom (the state dept) with long time ties to international wonk biden when the affable veep was chair of senate foreign relations

    altho politico doesn't point it out, i don't think it's spin to recall, here, the rather messy exits of dennis blair and stanley mcchrystal, known to share some of general jones' concerns

  3. #3
    Hippie Hater
    texmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Dallas TEXAS
    Last Seen
    08-20-15 @ 01:17 AM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    3,969

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director - Yahoo! News



    It looks like Obama is going for a thorough shakeup of his staff.
    Isn't it pretty typical after a few years for any president?
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    John Adams

  4. #4
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    on the topic of staff shakeup and what it means, politico's piece this morning on obama's new chief of staff rouse paints the same picture even more vividly

    But no matter how bad things get, Rouse and Obama have no plans to break up the small group of campaign veterans who surround the president — nor are they likely to bring in the outsiders many Democrats think the White House sorely needs.

    “It’s kind of a tight team over there, to state the obvious,” says Pennsylvania Gov. [and clintonista] Edward Rendell, a former Democratic National Committee chairman, in a recent interview with POLITICO. “Sometimes it’s hard to find a point of contact — or even know who to call over there.”

    Nor does Obama intend to change the West Wing’s underlying management dynamic — an autodidact president who talks to many people but listens to a handful of insiders with vague, sweeping portfolios who pad in and out of the Oval Office.

    “Nothing has changed,” says a person familiar with Obama’s thinking. “It’s not that he’s uncomfortable with outside people, it’s that he wants the people he’s most comfortable with right next to him.”
    Pete Rouse braces White House for Republican gains - Glenn Thrush - POLITICO.com

  5. #5
    Liberal Fascist For Life!


    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:18 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    93,358
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Isn't it pretty typical after a few years for any president?
    Yes it is. I think this is earlier than usual, but same basic premise, get new people new ideas in.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

  6. #6
    Sage
    Erod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    North Texas
    Last Seen
    12-16-17 @ 11:47 AM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,073

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    This isn't usually done right before mid-terms, I don't recall.

  7. #7
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Isn't it pretty typical after a few years for any president?
    yes, but there are a couple things most atypical

    1. such widespread staff changes (orszag, romer, summers, axelrod, gibbs, jones, rahm) aren't usually made before midterms

    2. replacing personnel with people so close to the president is also somewhat peculiar precisely because it signals an aversion to new ideas

    it's certainly his right, many question its wisdom

  8. #8
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,584

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director - Yahoo! News



    It looks like Obama is going for a thorough shakeup of his staff.
    Looks more like they're bailing, because they don't want to be associated with Obama's mess. General Jones was the only member of his staff that gave Obama any real credibility and now that's gone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  9. #9
    Guru
    Councilman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Riverside, County, CA.
    Last Seen
    11-04-11 @ 10:16 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,454
    Blog Entries
    10

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    Obama has been a failure and nothing he has done has been good for America or worked other than to destroy the economy as his plan has been from the start.

    Obama is going down as a failed one term idiot and he will be deserted by many more as the the end of his popularity grows.

    Only fools still believe in this amateur at everything.

  10. #10
    Outer space potato man

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    12-16-17 @ 11:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    51,849

    Re: Jones resigns as NSC chief, Donilon next director

    First they complain he's surrounded himself with radicals, then they complain when he dumps them...
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •