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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

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    It has everything to do with politics. School boards set the rules and regulations for the day to day operations of every school in America. School board members are elected to office. The environment that has been created by the politcians and the teachers's unions is one where no matter how ****ed up things get within the school system, almost no one can be held accountable.
    So. Boards of executive officers set the rules and regulations for the day to day operations of every corporation in America. Executive board members are appointed to office. So obviously this is set up this way so when someone goes postal at thier offices almost no one can be held accountable. Obviously it is the workplace's responsibility for shootings that may occur according to your logic.

    Your double standards are laughable.
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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    So. Boards of executive officers set the rules and regulations for the day to day operations of every corporation in America. Executive board members are appointed to office. So obviously this is set up this way so when someone goes postal at thier offices almost no one can be held accountable. Obviously it is the workplace's responsibility for shootings that may occur according to your logic.

    Your double standards are laughable.
    I'm guessing you've never heard of human resources. A workplace is as responsible for a mass shooting, as it is for sexual harassment and bullying within the workplace. Unless, you contend that a company isn't responsible for sexual harassment and bullying in the workplace.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    I don't remember the outrage against the bottling distributer in Connecticut for being the root cause of a man killing 8 people.

    Also, teachers shouldn't have unions because they teach the youth of America and get paid way too much and don't deserve benefits. It would be better for the system if they didn't have a say. Because they are teachers, indoctrinated by the same system they now work for. OMG you guys are driving me ****ing crazy.
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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    I don't remember the outrage against the bottling distributer in Connecticut for being the root cause of a man killing 8 people.

    Also, teachers shouldn't have unions because they teach the youth of America and get paid way too much and don't deserve benefits. It would be better for the system if they didn't have a say. Because they are teachers, indoctrinated by the same system they now work for. OMG you guys are driving me ****ing crazy.
    It would be better, if substandard teachers were allowed to ****-canned, without an act of Congress. If it were possible to unload some of the dead weight that now overloads our school systems, it would be easier to justify more money in the pockets of school teachers. If you have a group of people that knows that without breaking a law, it's virtually impossible to get fired, then there's never going to be any incentive for them to perform to any sort of higher standard. People work much harder when they're afraid for their job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It would be better, if substandard teachers were allowed to ****-canned, without an act of Congress. If it were possible to unload some of the dead weight that now overloads our school systems, it would be easier to justify more money in the pockets of school teachers. If you have a group of people that knows that without breaking a law, it's virtually impossible to get fired, then there's never going to be any incentive for them to perform to any sort of higher standard. People work much harder when they're afraid for their job.
    Hey man, I don't know the last time you checked...but the money our school district teachers get paid is a direct result of referenda passed or denied by local contituents. By a democratic vote.

    Also, most people who go to post secondary school for 8 years and dedicate thier studies to one particular subject only to be paid 40k max starting could be considered "of higher standard." And that is not to say there are no standards or requirements teachers must meet in order to keep thier jobs. ESPECIALLY in colleges and universities. I'm ready for you to start making sense any time now.
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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    From my perspective, I'm not sure what teachers could really do about bullying, as most of it takes place below their sightline (with the exception of some rare and remarkably screwed-up cases- such as the one mentioned by Orion- where the teachers actually abet the popular students in putting some poor misfit in his place).

    I'm not at all sure what Barack Obama could do about it either, nor why he's even being brought into the discussion.

    A seminar about bullying could be held in the school auditorium, with Obama himself as the keynote speaker, and the bullies would sit politely and nod earnestly, and then go to lunch afterward and continue to throw food at "Slutty Jana".
    They wouldn't really consider it "bullying"; more like their patriotic duty.

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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Hey man, I don't know the last time you checked...but the money our school district teachers get paid is a direct result of referenda passed or denied by local contituents. By a democratic vote.
    yeah and if there weren't so many dumbass teachers in the system, people would be more motivated to grant them a raise.

    Also, most people who go to post secondary school for 8 years and dedicate thier studies to one particular subject only to be paid 40k max starting could be considered "of higher standard." And that is not to say there are no standards or requirements teachers must meet in order to keep thier jobs. ESPECIALLY in colleges and universities. I'm ready for you to start making sense any time now.
    In that case, the standards aren't high enough.

    No one can argue that there aren't a helluvalotta teachers in this countries that have no business being teachers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    From my perspective, I'm not sure what teachers could really do about bullying, as most of it takes place below their sightline (with the exception of some rare and remarkably screwed-up cases- such as the one mentioned by Orion- where the teachers actually abet the popular students in putting some poor misfit in his place).
    I'm not at all sure what Barack Obama could do about it either, nor why he's even being brought into the discussion.
    A seminar about bullying could be held in the school auditorium, with Obama himself as the keynote speaker, and the bullies would sit politely and nod earnestly, and then go to lunch afterward and continue to throw food at "Slutty Jana".
    They wouldn't really consider it "bullying"; more like their patriotic duty.
    Well when kids are starting to be taught to not be gay, a bully would assume there's probably something wrong with Gay Steve. He deserves to be bullied. He's different and will go to hell. As if that weren't enough.
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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    From my perspective, I'm not sure what teachers could really do about bullying, as most of it takes place below their sightline (with the exception of some rare and remarkably screwed-up cases- such as the one mentioned by Orion- where the teachers actually abet the popular students in putting some poor misfit in his place).

    I'm not at all sure what Barack Obama could do about it either, nor why he's even being brought into the discussion.

    A seminar about bullying could be held in the school auditorium, with Obama himself as the keynote speaker, and the bullies would sit politely and nod earnestly, and then go to lunch afterward and continue to throw food at "Slutty Jana".
    They wouldn't really consider it "bullying"; more like their patriotic duty.
    They could snatch those littel bastards up and beat their asses.

    Why weren't there any teachers in the cafateria monitoring the activity of the kids?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 1 Ohio school, 4 bullied teens dead at own hand

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    yeah and if there weren't so many dumbass teachers in the system, people would be more motivated to grant them a raise.
    In that case, the standards aren't high enough.
    No one can argue that there aren't a helluvalotta teachers in this countries that have no business being teachers.
    Your right. Like no one can argue that there aren't a helluvalotta lawyers, doctors, executives, politicians, managers, business owners, in this country that have no business being any of those.

    Generic. Generic. Generic.
    and so it goes...

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