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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's why I support the end of Food Stamps, and the allotment of food (based on the current value of food stamps alloted to recipients) at local supermarkets. The govt decides the menu of food you eat when you're on welfare. Govt nutritionists will determine the food stuffs available at supermarkets to recipients. If you don't like, get off of welfare. The govt can cut out all the crap food it wants. You will also be taught how to prepare meals with the available list of food. Why should we leave the decision up to these people to spend our tax dollars in a smart way to care for their families. If you don't want to learn to cook, then you'll have to eat flour out of the bag.
    I'm all for it. And it would lead to a much healthier class of people. But it will be more expensive. healthy food costs.

    But I like the idea of seeing making people healthy as a pubnishment. Funny stuff.

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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If you don't want to learn to cook, then you'll have to eat flour out of the bag.
    Oooh! That's cold. Flour don't taste very good.



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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You seem to be ignorant of the fact that politicians are tax payer funded employees and tax payer dollars does not stop being tax payer dollars just because the government takes it from you.
    Alright. Since you seem to think that it is "your" money and that you should be able to determine how and on what it is spent how about you go and tell a politician the same thing and then demand that their paycheck be cut in half. How long do you think that it would take before you're laughed out of the building? Assuming of course that you're just not thrown out first.



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    Telling someone what they can and can not use MY MONEY for is not telling them how to live their lives. Why do you fail to understand the fact that foodstamps are not a gift, they are a helping hand.
    Again, lending a helping hand does not mean that you can tell them how to live their lives. How many times must I repeat myself? It doesn't matter how many times that you state that it is "your money" (which it's not) and that you have a "right" to tell them what they can/cannot buy with it, you do not. Thier life equals more rights than "your" money. Or any money period.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Alright. Since you seem to think that it is "your" money and that you should be able to determine how and on what it is spent how about you go and tell a politician the same thing and then demand that their paycheck be cut in half. How long do you think that it would take before you're laughed out of the building? Assuming of course that you're just not thrown out first.

    I do not think any politician would have the balls to say its not your money,sensible people would be outraged and that politician thrown out. I guess you libs have this idea that the money some how grows on trees that tax payers should shut the **** up when those in office wish to spend tax payer dollars a certian way. As a tax payer and a voter I have every damn right to make sure the clowns in office do not waste my money and I have every damn right to make sure that when they give my money to other people that strings come attached with it so that they are not wasting my money.




    Again, lending a helping hand does not mean that you can tell them how to live their lives. How many times must I repeat myself? It doesn't matter how many times that you state that it is "your money" (which it's not) and that you have a "right" to tell them what they can/cannot buy with it, you do not.
    Again I am not telling them how to live. I am telling them what they can and can not use my money for. If they want soda,cupcakes or other luxery foods then they can get a job and pay for those things. Should those on food stamps and welfare be allowed to buy booze and smokes with that money, should they be allowed to use their welfare check to gamble or pay for the services of prostitutes? After in your eyes telling them they could not buy those things is telling them how to live their life.

    Thier life equals more rights than "your" money. Or any money period.
    Their life does not entitle them to spend my money however the **** they please, nor does their life entitle them to my money.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Alright. Since you seem to think that it is "your" money and that you should be able to determine how and on what it is spent how about you go and tell a politician the same thing and then demand that their paycheck be cut in half. How long do you think that it would take before you're laughed out of the building? Assuming of course that you're just not thrown out first.
    I don't understand this at all. Do you not have any opinions on what government spends money on? As soon as you pay your taxes, the money just disappears into a black hole and you have no right to voice any opinion at that point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang
    Again, lending a helping hand does not mean that you can tell them how to live their lives.
    No, but you do have the right to prohibit them from buying **** that isn't within the scope of the program. Soda provides no nutrients, and therefore does not fulfill the goal of the food stamp program in any way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang
    How many times must I repeat myself? It doesn't matter how many times that you state that it is "your money" (which it's not) and that you have a "right" to tell them what they can/cannot buy with it, you do not. Thier life equals more rights than "your" money. Or any money period.
    "Their life"? Are they going to die if they don't get to buy soda with taxpayer money?
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    James James James... There are 130m taxpayers. Your share of the grocery bill is therefore 130 millionth of each dollar spent. Who can say what part of the grocery bill your 130millionth paid for?
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    James James James... There are 130m taxpayers. Your share of the grocery bill is therefore 130 millionth of each dollar spent. Who can say what part of the grocery bill your 130millionth paid for?
    How much I pay into the system verses where or how much is spent on any particular thing is irrelevant to the fact that I have a right to demand that my money is not wasted. You may feel that some one on tax payer funded assistance deserves such as food stamps is entitled to have me and everyone else pay for energy drinks, soda, cookies and other luxury foods most reasonable people like me would argue is that if you want those things then get a job and pay for those things yourself.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How much I pay into the system verses where or how much is spent on any particular thing is irrelevant to the fact that I have a right to demand that my money is not wasted. You may feel that some one on tax payer funded assistance deserves such as food stamps is entitled to have me and everyone else pay for energy drinks, soda, cookies and other luxury foods most reasonable people like me would argue is that if you want those things then get a job and pay for those things yourself.
    I have money, and I don't buy those things.

    People can live without it, they just don't want to.

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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think any politician would have the balls to say its not your money,sensible people would be outraged and that politician thrown out. I guess you libs have this idea that the money some how grows on trees that tax payers should shut the **** up when those in office wish to spend tax payer dollars a certian way.
    Before you start throwing out barbs, you should know that Libs are not the ones that are insisting that no restrictions should be put on what can or can't be bought with food stamps. At least, not this one. I'm a Dem, don't consider myself a Lib, but am labeled as such by cons, but I agree that if soda is not nutritional, it shouldn't be allowed with food stamps. Neither are cigarettes and alcohol.

    As a matter of fact, I believe it was a conservative that claimed it was taking away their freedoms, that we couldn't tell them how to spend the food stamps.


    As a tax payer and a voter I have every damn right to make sure the clowns in office do not waste my money and I have every damn right to make sure that when they give my money to other people that strings come attached with it so that they are not wasting my money.
    As a tax payer you have a voice, but if the majority decides they want to spend the money a certain way, it doesn't matter what you think.

    Again I am not telling them how to live. I am telling them what they can and can not use my money for. If they want soda,cupcakes or other luxery foods then they can get a job and pay for those things.
    Ironic, I'm a Dem, and I feel the exact same way.

    Should those on food stamps and welfare be allowed to buy booze and smokes with that money, should they be allowed to use their welfare check to gamble or pay for the services of prostitutes? After in your eyes telling them they could not buy those things is telling them how to live their life.
    They are not allowed to buy booze or cigarettes. And I think sodas should be added to the list.

    Their life does not entitle them to spend my money however the **** they please, nor does their life entitle them to my money.
    If they are poor, the government allows them to apply for food stamps, and whatever has been approved by our dieticians to be allowed with food stamps is what they will be able to buy. You only have a voice through your Congressmen and it may not be what the rest of the country agrees on. Sad, but true.



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