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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Uhm, If I want to cook frites in trans fat, salt em and have a soda, in bloombergs world, I'm a criminal. The fact that he starts out with the whole food stamps thing is irrellevant when he supports a tax on soda, has banned trans fat, and is on the attack against salt.

    Freedom, some has it..... Some wants it.
    If you want to cook frites in trans fat, salt em and have ten sodas, you are not a criminal, just an irresponsible eater. If you want to do that on money that is given to you by the government, supplied by taxpayers, to keep you from starving, then you are not only an irresponsible eater, you are altogether irresponsible, and need the guidance of someone with more sense.

    And, it has nothing to do with freedom. Anyone can still buy sodas, cookies and potato chips, if they have the money to do so - but if you are dependent on others for your food, at least allow them to restrict those food items that will hurt you instead of help you.



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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think we should end food stamps all together. Government cheese and spam lines would be motivation to get the bums back to work.
    There you go, showing your conservative values. Not all people on food stamps are there because they are lazy, that is a myth started by Republicans because they would like to keep more of their money, so they can donate more to the corporations.



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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    please link to difinitive studies that coke is " Osteoporosis In a Can".
    I don't know about osteoporosis, but they are definitely not good for us.

    Studies show that soft drinks can lead to tooth decay, nutritional depletion, obesity, type 2 diabetes, and heart disease. These are the most common health problems that are associated with heavy soft drink consumption, especially in children.

    Soft drinks are packed with sugar, which is one of the main reason they are so bad for you. It's recommended that you only have 10 teaspoons of sugars per 2,000 calories on a daily basis, but one soft drink contains more than the allotted 10 teaspoons.

    Why Drinking Soda is Bad for You


    Also

    Studies show Sodas linked to Pancreatic Cancer

    silly hysterics don't help the debate.
    Not silly hysterics, just helpful information. You are still free to drink as many as you want, when you want, if you have the money to do so.


    Soda is nasty for you, as is many things processed. acting like it's drinking battery acid is hyperbole at its finest.
    Some people still smoke in lieu of all the bad press cigarettes have been given, in light of all the people that have died due to lung cancer. They just don't want to believe the facts. You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot force him to drink, but please don't tell us the studies are all wrong. Show us some studies that prove the opposite instead of just giving your opinion.



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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yep - when soda is banned from being sold to the mass market, home soda kits will make a comeback. Maybe we should stock up on Take-A-Boost! now and cellar it for when the food nazi's arrive and proclaim "Vee vill conviskate allis of zee soda pops frum der cubbords, mit zee guns if necessary!"

    Rootbeer kits and cream soda kits will be big on zee black market!!
    I doubt that soda will ever be banned from the food market.

    There will always be idiots who don't believe the facts and will continue to over indulge in those things proven to be bad for them. Just like with cigarettes!



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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Lets see.... we gotta extra fed [sin] tax on tobacco/alcohol, a [race] health tax on suntan beds. Why the hell not more health fed taxes on trans fat, sugar or anything the new "Health/Sin Tax Czar"... determines is bad for us.

    We could also tax obesity by the pound which would wipe out the fed debt overnite. While we're at it... we could quickly generate an enormous surplus if we'd simply legalize and tax heroin, pot, prostitutes, independent bookies, bootlegging.... etc. We could also give tax credits and deductions for using lower income whores, bookies, dealers.

    The only real problem I see is conformance by individual states. Eric Holder may need to file suit against the rogue states that either don't comply... or else passes their own enforcement laws... which they believe work better than the fed laws.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    You're opinon is duly noted, however RH is correct. Where does it stop? Are people not free to choose their own risks? By your statements, you could argue for all kinds of resitrictions, or prohibitions due to risk of health consequences. If the Government, (me and you) pays, then perhaps some restirctions are warranted, and rightly so, but the government needs to be consistent across the board. Outlaw hiking in public parks, climbing on public spaces, how about no snowball fighting in schools, how about not being allowed to build in fire zones, or hurricane, tornado zones? The list is immense, and to punish one private enterpise and not another is unfair.


    Tim-
    Wow! from restricting food stamp recipients from buying a product found to be unhealthy, not just non nutritional, to outlawing hiking in public parks, climbing on public spaces (whater the hell that is), no snowball fighting in schools, not building in fire, hurricane or tornado zones (although peculiar to certain areas, are not permanently consistent). Talk about getting carried away. I've never heard any hint at any of those other things you mentioned - why let the public know what is considered bad, it might hurt some enterprise, and we know enterprises are more important than people - to some.



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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Wow! from restricting food stamp recipients from buying a product found to be unhealthy, not just non nutritional, to outlawing hiking in public parks, climbing on public spaces (whater the hell that is), no snowball fighting in schools, not building in fire, hurricane or tornado zones (although peculiar to certain areas, are not permanently consistent). Talk about getting carried away. I've never heard any hint at any of those other things you mentioned - why let the public know what is considered bad, it might hurt some enterprise, and we know enterprises are more important than people - to some.
    The logic is the same, whether you think it so, is unimportant.


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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Okay these wild tangents about them banning anything unhealthy are completely out of scope with the core issue this thread addressed. We're talking about limiting what people can or cannot buy with FOOD STAMPS. They already limit what you can or cannot buy with food stamps, this is just adding one more thing to the list. This is nothing new.

    This whole chicken little thing with outright bans is a bit premature. Yes, I know they banned transfat in NY and that was wrong. I get that. But that's a totally and completely separate issue than limiting what one can purchase with charitable monies. If and when they attempt to ban soda for EVERYONE, then I'll screaming your tune right along with you. But there is absolutely NO reason that people on food stamps should be allowed to use that money for soda (or chips, candy, lunch cakes, etc for that matter), or alcohol, or tobacco, etc. And, limiting what people can or cannot purchase on foodstamps (which we ALREADY DO) has absolutely no bearing on what the rest of the population can or cannot purchase.

    This is NOT a matter of the government saying you can't eat this or that. It's a matter of the govt - by way of being the source of the charity - saying that IF you are using food stamps to buy food, what you can purchase is limited.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Obamanator View Post
    Lets see.... we gotta extra fed [sin] tax on tobacco/alcohol, a [race] health tax on suntan beds. Why the hell not more health fed taxes on trans fat, sugar or anything the new "Health/Sin Tax Czar"... determines is bad for us.
    That wouldn't be so bad. That way, only the idiots that insist on putting their health at risk are willing to spend the extra money, and it benefits the rest of the country.

    We could also tax obesity by the pound which would wipe out the fed debt overnite.
    They already charge an obese person more to fly, as they take 2 seats. Don't know that it helps the fed debt, just the airline.


    While we're at it... we could quickly generate an enormous surplus if we'd simply legalize and tax heroin, pot,
    I don't know about heroin, but pot should definitely be legalized. It would reduce our jail population, curtail crime and create revenue for the government.

    prostitutes, independent bookies, bootlegging.... etc.
    It would probably end prostitution, as the prostitutes probably wouldn't like working for the government. Bookmaking might not be a bad idea, also, but bootlegging would just hurt the companies that do all the work.

    We could also give tax credits and deductions for using lower income whores, bookies, dealers.
    Some wealthy people are already getting tax credits - maybe for those things disguised as something legit! That's just my opinion.



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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The logic is the same, whether you think it so, is unimportant.


    Tim-
    How is it the same. Does the government pay for your hikes in the park? Does the government pay for your house being built in a hurricane, tornado or fire zone?

    I suppose if the government was building our houses, they would have some valid reason for not allowing us to build in a flood zone - insurance companies certainly do.



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