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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I think that is your misreading. It's a health issue. Nothing more.



    If it was a health issue, Soda would be about 2nd or third on the list.


    No proccessed foods,
    No "corn syrup" period.
    No hot dogs, hamburgers,


    It's a bull**** attempt at incrementalism that NYC is famous for...
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    If it was a health issue, Soda would be about 2nd or third on the list.


    No proccessed foods,
    No "corn syrup" period.
    No hot dogs, hamburgers,


    It's a bull**** attempt at incrementalism that NYC is famous for...
    I'm sorry, but that's nonsense.

    Amazingly, Americans (and people in other countries) actually drink a product that can rightfully be called Osteoporosis In a Can. And, it gets worse from there. Read on

    Soft drinks: Unsafe beverages

    James A Howenstine M.D.
    A Physician's Guide to Natural Health Products That Work

    "In an interesting experiment the sugar from one soft drink was able to damage the white blood cells' ability to ingest and kill gonococcal bacteria for seven hours."

    "Soft drinks also contain large quantities of phosphorus, which when excreted pulls calcium out of the bones. Heavy users of soft drinks will have osteoporosis along with their damaged arteries."

    James Duke PhD
    The Green Pharmacy : The Ultimate Compendium Of Natural Remedies From The World's Foremost Authority On Healing Herbs

    "And watch out for cola soft drinks, which are very high in bone-dissolving phosphorus."

    The health effects of drinking soda - quotes from the experts

    Soft Drink Health Risks - CBS News Video

    Reuters) - Sodas -- even diet ones -- may be linked with increased risk factors for heart disease and diabetes, U.S. researchers said on Monday.

    No safe haven: Diet sodas linked with health risks | Reuters

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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    please link to difinitive studies that coke is " Osteoporosis In a Can".


    silly hysterics don't help the debate.


    Soda is nasty for you, as is many things processed. acting like it's drinking battery acid is hyperbole at its finest.
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    The health factor is irrelevant. The simple fact is that people on charity will have limited choices. People on charity that is designed to give them food so they do not starve do not require soda or other junk food since that food is not going to nourish them. The charitable money should not be wasted in such a way. Less that's spent on that crap, more can be given to others. And, the people giving the charity have every right and obligation to see that the money they offer is spent in a responsible manner. And if it's not, it's the right of the entity offering the charity to stop giving it.

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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    please link to difinitive studies that coke is " Osteoporosis In a Can".


    silly hysterics don't help the debate.


    Soda is nasty for you, as is many things processed. acting like it's drinking battery acid is hyperbole at its finest.
    Denial isn't just a river. The CBS piece cited a study of health concerns. That should be enough to prove my point. However:

    Teenagers who drink a lot of soda have now been documented as being more prone to bone fractures and osteoporosis than those who do not drink much soda pop.

    A questionnaire was given to 460 girls in the 9th and 10th grades, asking them about their diet and exercise habits, along with any history of fractures. The study results showed that girls who drank soft drinks were more than three times more likely to have a bone fracture. And physically active girls who drank Cola were nearly five times more likely to have had a bone fracture.

    Studies have linked mineral loss before to Cola consumption, but finally some one thought to check out teenager's consumption and how it might affect them. The conclusion was that drinking soda pop causes osteoporosis in teenagers.

    Osteoporosis In Teenagers Due To Drinking Soda Pop

    A study published in the October 2006 issue of American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded that colas, but not most other non-caffeinated carbonated drinks, are linked to bone loss. Additional research would be needed to confirm the findings of this study.

    Can Drinking Soda Cause Osteoporosis?

    Results of a study of 76 girls and 51 boys (14.3 yr and 14.6 yr) showed a strong association between cola beverage consumption and bone fractures in girls, suggesting that the high consumption of carbonated beverages are of great public health significance for girls and women because of their proneness to osteoporosis in later life.

    Soda Consumption and Osteoporosis Association in Women

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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think we should end food stamps all together. Government cheese and spam lines would be motivation to get the bums back to work.
    If the food were actually healthy (government cheese and spam certainly do not fit well into this category), then maybe. But, by not providing a means to obtain food that is actually going to provide a healthy mix of nutrients, the government really wouldn't be helping the problem a whole lot.

    I am for more restrictions on foodstamps qualified purchases, similar to those in the WIC program but with more options, but limiting people to only a few foods is not healthy for them either. And not everyone on foodstamps is out of work, they simply can't afford food due to their cost of living despite having an income.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Soda waters have been under assault for years. This is just a change in tactics.
    Yep - when soda is banned from being sold to the mass market, home soda kits will make a comeback. Maybe we should stock up on Take-A-Boost! now and cellar it for when the food nazi's arrive and proclaim "Vee vill conviskate allis of zee soda pops frum der cubbords, mit zee guns if necessary!"

    Rootbeer kits and cream soda kits will be big on zee black market!!
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Nudging the electorate notwithstanding, food stamps should have bars to them. I say they should only ever be used to purchase discount food, like the no name brands at Wal Mart, and many other grocers. I also think that welfare checks should be handled by the government in direct pays to gas and electric, and rent. What's left is sent to the welfare reipient.

    What's wrong with that?

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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    can one buy potato chips, cheetos, microwave burritos, etc on ny food stamps?

    why yes, yes they can...


    Eligible Food Items


    heck you can even buy redbull...


    would soda bans attach to sugar free items?


    See this is a bull**** law designed to get it into peoples minds that soda is ok to be banned. its incrementalism.


    If you want to restrict food stamp folks, and Im fine with that, it needs to be across the board, not a gateway into my non food stamp using life/.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    can one buy potato chips, cheetos, microwave burritos, etc on ny food stamps?

    why yes, yes they can...


    Eligible Food Items


    heck you can even buy redbull...


    would soda bans attach to sugar free items?


    See this is a bull**** law designed to get it into peoples minds that soda is ok to be banned. its incrementalism.


    If you want to restrict food stamp folks, and Im fine with that, it needs to be across the board, not a gateway into my non food stamp using life/.
    You're making a huge leap here. No one has jumped into your non-food stamp life. And if they do begin to treat soda like tobbacco, you would still be free to harm yourself as much as you like. People still smoke, oddly. But health concersn are, . . . well. . . a concern.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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