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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    New City Move Against Soda - WSJ.com (The link title is different than the article title)

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    This topic spurred some outrage when it was discussed as a hypothetical. I'm hoping they get approved so that they can test this out.
    I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.Although I think it is dishonest of the media to make it look like another nanny government sticking its nose into where it does not belong.

    I could care less about obesity. I see soda, ice cream, energy drinks, cake, candybars, cookies and all kinds of other similar stuff to be luxury food items.If you are are wanting to use my money to buy food because you are unable to do so on your own then I should have a say in what you should be allowed to buy with it. Why do people seem to have the absurd notion that just because the government takes your money that you shouldn't be able to have a say in how it is spent.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.Although I think it is dishonest of the media to make it look like another nanny government sticking its nose into where it does not belong.

    I could care less about obesity. I see soda, ice cream, energy drinks, cake, candybars, cookies and all kinds of other similar stuff to be luxury food items.If you are are wanting to use my money to buy food because you are unable to do so on your own then I should have a say in what you should be allowed to buy with it. Why do people seem to have the absurd notion that just because the government takes your money that you shouldn't be able to have a say in how it is spent.
    You do have a say. When you go to the voting polls. Beyond that it is up to who was elected. And they have better access to information than you do. Also they must uphold the constitution where the rights of the individual outweigh the rights of the majority.

    Not everyone that gets on food stamps does so because they want to or because they want a free ride. It is because they actually NEED it. Just because they are poor and need help gives you no right to tell them how to live their life. Thier right to choose is just as valid and as important as is yours.

    Besides you have no idea WHAT your money goes towards. You just know that some of the taxes are for foodstamps. For all you know all your money may just go towards building/paving roads. In which case you shouldn't have a say...at least going by your logic.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Modifying the food stamp program so that the funds cannot be used for soda is not a "punishment," IMO. Nobody is proposing cuts in the amount that these people will receive, just that they will no longer be able to spend it on a nutritionally useless product.
    No you're just telling them what they can and cannot have. Much like the old days when a peasant couldn't shoot a deer for food because it was the "Kings Deer". The king was rich and the peasant was poor. You're rich (or at least self suficient enough to do without food stamps) and the peasants are everyone that is on food stamps.

    Like I said, you can couch it in health terms all you want. But in the end you are acting just like that King that wouldn't let people shoot "his" deer.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No you're just telling them what they can and cannot have. Much like the old days when a peasant couldn't shoot a deer for food because it was the "Kings Deer". The king was rich and the peasant was poor. You're rich (or at least self suficient enough to do without food stamps) and the peasants are everyone that is on food stamps.

    Like I said, you can couch it in health terms all you want. But in the end you are acting just like that King that wouldn't let people shoot "his" deer.
    No. The purpose of the food stamp program is to alleviate poverty by providing poor people with enough to eat so that we don't have malnourishment in this country. Soda does not do that. It has no nutritional value whatsoever. It is just as wasteful as spending food stamps on, say, a DVD. I assume you're OK with people not being able to spend food stamps on those?
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    I don't give a crap about Obesity and Diabetes problems. I DO care about people on Food Stamps being forced to use their money more wisely. Your on food stamps for a reason, and if you aren't buying legitimate food with your stamps then you should be taken off of them. Food Stamps are not a gift, they should not be treated as such. They are meant to help you and if you waste them you don't deserve them.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    I warned live on the radio over 5 years ago this and much more is coming because you are stupid and in need of being controlled in every aspect of your daily life.

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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I seriously doubt this will have any measurable impact on "obesity and diabetes problems." The crap is dirt cheap, so if people want it, they're going to have it.

    I view this as mostly symbolic. I believe it's been shown time and time again that food stamps fail on many levels, trying to encourage people to eat certain things just being one.
    Tap water is even cheaper but they are not drinking that.

    If we really really want to stem the tide of the comming epidemic let us put some sort of stop to unwanted sugar in our diets. We are seeing 20 year old people with mature onset diabetes!!
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No. The purpose of the food stamp program is to alleviate poverty by providing poor people with enough to eat so that we don't have malnourishment in this country. Soda does not do that. It has no nutritional value whatsoever. It is just as wasteful as spending food stamps on, say, a DVD. I assume you're OK with people not being able to spend food stamps on those?
    Alright, you want to limit them to nothing but nutritional food then right? Ok. How about we make it to where they can no longer buy anything that is not good for ya. Salt, red meat, chicken (cause they could fry it..which is bad for ya), potatoes, fish (mercury is bad for ya)....basically make it to where they cannot buy anything except vegetables, tofu, and penuts. Put em on a vegetarian diet. Hows that sound? I'm sure PETA would LOVE that. If you allow anything else then your plea for it being for health reasons is null and void.
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    Re: Soda Is Target of New Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You do have a say. When you go to the voting polls. Beyond that it is up to who was elected. And they have better access to information than you do. Also they must uphold the constitution where the rights of the individual outweigh the rights of the majority.

    snip...

    Besides you have no idea WHAT your money goes towards. You just know that some of the taxes are for foodstamps. For all you know all your money may just go towards building/paving roads. In which case you shouldn't have a say...at least going by your logic.
    Why do you people have this absurd notion that just because the government takes your money that it is no longer yours or that your should not have a say in how it is spent?
    Not everyone that gets on food stamps does so because they want to or because they want a free ride.
    This does not change the fact that welfare, wic, section 8 housing and foodstamps is a helping hand not a gift. Do you understand this fact? Those things are not gifts.

    It is because they actually NEED it.
    If they really need it then they should not be spending those foodstamps on soda,cakes,cookies, energy drinks and other similar things.

    Just because they are poor and need help gives you no right to tell them how to live their life. Thier right to choose is just as valid and as important as is yours.
    I am not telling them how to live their life. I am telling them that if I give you money to feed yourself then here is what you can and can not spend that money on.
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