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    McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    Are waivers going to be issued to all corporations, or just the big dogs?

    Why are waivers, to prevent loss of coverage, even necessary? According to The One, no one was going to lose their coverage.

    Thirty companies and organizations, including McDonald's (MCD) and Jack in the Box (JACK), won't be required to raise the minimum annual benefit included in low-cost health plans, which are often used to cover part-time or low-wage employees.

    The Department of Health and Human Services, which provided a list of exemptions, said it granted waivers in late September so workers with such plans wouldn't lose coverage from employers who might choose instead to drop health insurance altogether.

    McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers - USATODAY.com
    Nearly a million workers won't get a consumer protection in the U.S. health reform law meant to cap insurance costs because the government exempted their employers.
    That's niiiice! This is the government admitting that Obamacare is ****ed up. Why else would they exempt government employees?
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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    There will be no lobbyists in policy positions in Obama's White House... unless he grants them a waiver.

    All employers will have to follow the new health care laws... unless he grants them a waiver.

    Change we can believe in, folks.

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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are waivers going to be issued to all corporations, or just the big dogs?

    Why are waivers, to prevent loss of coverage, even necessary? According to The One, no one was going to lose their coverage.





    That's niiiice! This is the government admitting that Obamacare is ****ed up. Why else would they exempt government employees?
    It says the government exempt their employers not govt employees.
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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are waivers going to be issued to all corporations, or just the big dogs?
    Just the big dogs of course... It's "special interests" that WROTE the bill. This was NOT written up by Obama, House OR Senate members. Do you HONESTLY think that 'joe's plumbing' is going to be able to get exemptions.

    That's why I keep harping on this being 'fascist'... not a fascist dictatorship per se, but there is a clear blurring of the lines between 'special interests' (re: corporate interests) and government. There was government direct manipulation of the auto industry, then the banking sector, then health care, millitary has had a DRASTIC conversion to 'contractors' (re : mercenaries). Hopefully I won't be made to source all this. There's also the use of racial politics in order to push the white house agenda (ie : only racists oppose health care reform)

    Why are waivers, to prevent loss of coverage, even necessary? According to The One, no one was going to lose their coverage.
    He also said 'no new taxes'... then defended sections of the bill as a tax... Obama lies as a standard, him and his cronies often lie even when the truth would suit them...

    Because the aim is to squeeze as much money as possible, and then when you need treatment you'll have enough coverage to get your cancer diagnosed, and then run out of coverage when it comes to the treatment. Also, if you're old and a hip replacement, you may be told that you've lived a long life and that the resources would be better used to save someone that has a long time to live. (Re: Time magazine - "the case for killing granny")

    That's niiiice! This is the government admitting that Obamacare is ****ed up. Why else would they exempt government employees?
    Well, that's part of being an 'enabler' to this type of 'reform' (which is comparable 'reform' that a bullet hole in the foot is a 'reform' of your foor), you add in the caveats to exempt yourself from what is ultimately not in ANYBODY's interests except perhaps the insurance companies.

    I MAY get a warning for 'conspiracy theory', but IMHO we are entering into a crossroads that will be a revolution of our system... either a revolution to return to constitutional values, or a full conversion to a system that will appear much like communist China in many respects. Though, even for those that will argue that as a GOOD thing... maybe in some respects, but individually would be harmful for almost everyone, the cost is too great, IMO to allow this type of conversion of the 'american way'...

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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    With a little luck we will get to see the whole "Obama I Don't Care About Your Health, Kill Granny Plan" be trashed where it belongs after Nov.

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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    Next thing you know, Obama will grant a waiver to the voters, exempting them from voting, and just declare himself president in 2012.

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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Next thing you know, Obama will grant a waiver to the voters, exempting them from voting, and just declare himself president in 2012.
    lol.



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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    Someone makes a joke, of The Joker that created the healthcare joke... with a rolling eyes smiley... and it is paranoia?

    Let's see... as is now established, one has to go begging to government, as they are The Deciders. When they flip you the finger... you're done.

    The abortion of a plan has already illustrated what is in store; favoritism, who you know/connections. Like other socialist systems it will be gamed, abused and corrupted... and those waiting lists for care will grow like crazy. Just as they do in Sweden or Kanuckistan.

    Repeal the evil.

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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Someone makes a joke, of The Joker that created the healthcare joke... with a rolling eyes smiley... and it is paranoia?

    Let's see... as is now established, one has to go begging to government, as they are The Deciders. When they flip you the finger... you're done.

    The abortion of a plan has already illustrated what is in store; favoritism, who you know/connections. Like other socialist systems it will be gamed, abused and corrupted... and those waiting lists for care will grow like crazy. Just as they do in Sweden or Kanuckistan.

    Repeal the evil.
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    Two years in and you guys are still convinced hes the definition of doom. By the way where was this big government talk before Obama? How come it only became a big deal when he came in? If i was for making sure the government stayed small, I'd also ask that it apply to Republican administrations.

    Just wait and this. Just wait and that. Just wait and Jesus will come and save us. Just wait and see that overconsumption is just fine and living, breathing and drinking our own smog, piss and **** is sustainable. Just wait and Obama will turn our country socialist/communist/faschist/nazi. Just wait and watch him raise our taxes! Just wait and youll see how he indoctrinated our children. Wait and see him do this and do that.

    No support. Ever. Same thing. Over and over. Generic. Circular. Our government needs to take a step towards taking less steps. ****ing rediculous.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

    Jake, you post is thin on fact and high on emotion... but I'll take a stab at it anyhow:

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Two years in and you guys are still convinced hes the definition of doom.
    He is doom. I don't see a whole lot of good during the past 2-years on any front; international or national. We've spent trillions for what? 10.1% unemployment? I see there are warnings for Americans in Europe... I though he was going to solve this upon election. The racial divide... is greater. I see Iran had done a 180... ROTFLOL. ObiKare, unread by Congress is a mess right out of the box.

    Jake...Where's the success? Where? Obama's new metric of "Jobs saved"... ROTFLOL

    By the way where was this big government talk before Obama?
    If you check my posts, MrVic, The Good Rev, American, tex, apdst... any conservative leaning individual here... we ALL have stated we did not like Bush's spending, and the fact he didn't haul out the veto pen during his first term. BUT... typically...

    FOR LIBS IT WASN'T ENOUGH! (It never is)

    Just wait and see that overconsumption is just fine and living, breathing and drinking our own smog, piss and **** is sustainable.
    Overconsumption? You sound like good'ol Senator Hollings... "There's too much consum'in goin on". Problem was consumption, specifically people getting loans for houses they couldn't pay back. That's been the root of much evil, and it's come thanks to Fannie & Freddie... Raines, Gorellick, Frank, Dodd, Clinton and Cuomo. They played with the market, forcing banks to loan money to people that normally wouldn't get one... and lost the farm for the nation... BIG TIME.

    Just wait and Obama will turn our country socialist/communist/faschist/nazi. Just wait and watch him raise our taxes! Just wait and youll see how he indoctrinated our children. Wait and see him do this and do that.
    You were doing fine until you hit fascist and Nazi. He's been chumming with socialist, commi renegades or been trained by them before becoming President.

    He shut down the oil rigs, government takes over GM, he's spent like a drunk, he's forced ObamaKare on us without Congress knowing what was inside the bill, and he has been hostile to business.

    No support. Ever. Same thing. Over and over. Generic. Circular. Our government needs to take a step towards taking less steps. ****ing rediculous.
    Our government need return to founding principles. Limited government, states rights, individual liberty. Not collective welfare and redistribution.

    Tell me... why are Democrats not running as Democrats this election (and every election)? Could it be people don't like the deception that was perpetrated upon them by Obama and his Journolists?

    And what about the exemptions from ObiKare? Where do we get in line? OH!... only for high profile companies... now that sounds like the typical socialist system to me. Favoritism a'la Carte.

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