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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

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    All bills are written in legalese. Nothing new about that. Nor will it change becasue you or I have troubel reading it. But, no, this does not excuse anyone from being unreeasonable. Sorry.
    Bills are indeed written in legal jargon. However, 2,800 page monstrosities with no understanding, or even being read by those voting on them is not what this country is all about either.


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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

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    I think that there is a fair amount of source searching going on on both ends of the debate here. See, when making a point it is natural to find facts to back up what you are saying. But I don't necessarily disagree that it can get muddy in what is a 'go to' in terms of reading things that either agree with ones world view, or discount another's. However, if you are really trying to portray this as a problem with only those that disagree with you, then you are really a parody of your own point.

    Look, here are a couple of FACTS for you:

    1.) Reid can't garner above 50% of the vote in his own state.

    2.) Reid is trailing in the polls with nothing of substance to debate on, and prefers personal attacks.

    3.) This one is not a fact yet, but my opinion is that considering the other two facts, Reid is going down in 15 days, and I say thank God!

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    Not talking about source searching, but what one accepts as not only a source, but how finding someone who agrees (an opinion) weigths more for some than actual factual information.

    Now, as for your facts:

    1) No one's arguing this.

    2) More an opinion, but my opinion wouldn't limit that to just Reid. From where I sit, my opinion is neither has been big on sustance, and both have used personal attacks.

    3) You're right, that is opinion, but as I asked earlier, how can Nevada win with these two candidates? Because both appear poor (opinion), why should anyone be happy about this? Or is perceived winning more important than the good of the country?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not talking about source searching, but what one accepts as not only a source, but how finding someone who agrees (an opinion) weigths more for some than actual factual information.

    Now, as for your facts:

    1) No one's arguing this.

    2) More an opinion, but my opinion wouldn't limit that to just Reid. From where I sit, my opinion is neither has been big on sustance, and both have used personal attacks.

    3) You're right, that is opinion, but as I asked earlier, how can Nevada win with these two candidates? Because both appear poor (opinion), why should anyone be happy about this? Or is perceived winning more important than the good of the country?

    Because in order to dismantle the destruction that Obama has amazingly pushed through in his two years so far, we are going to need to truly give the power back to the people. In that I believe that one great way to do this is to unseat the Senate Majority leader whom is one of the single most responsible people for pushing through these destructive policies.

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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Because in order to dismantle the destruction that Obama has amazingly pushed through in his two years so far, we are going to need to truly give the power back to the people. In that I believe that one great way to do this is to unseat the Senate Majority leader whom is one of the single most responsible people for pushing through these destructive policies.

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    Giving power to a nutter is not returning power to the people. The people would have done better to make sure a valid candidate made to the ballot. I not espouse to the theory that anyone will do. They should at least meet a minimal standard.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Giving power to a nutter is not returning power to the people. The people would have done better to make sure a valid candidate made to the ballot. I not espouse to the theory that anyone will do. They should at least meet a minimal standard.
    I just think watching the senate leader actually lose - wow, that's hard to do even for Harry Reid - has you so bent that you've concocted this image of Angle as this blithering imbecile. You lefties love your overly verbose and polished empty suits.

    Reid is an absolute puke of a human being. ANYONE would be an improvement. A dead man would be an improvement.

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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Giving power to a nutter is not returning power to the people. The people would have done better to make sure a valid candidate made to the ballot. I not espouse to the theory that anyone will do. They should at least meet a minimal standard.

    Nutter? So, it is your opinion that Harry Reid is sane? yeah, go with that.....


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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

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    I just think watching the senate leader actually lose - wow, that's hard to do even for Harry Reid - has you so bent that you've concocted this image of Angle as this blithering imbecile. You lefties love your overly verbose and polished empty suits.

    Reid is an absolute puke of a human being. ANYONE would be an improvement. A dead man would be an improvement.
    You misread. I don't care if Reid loses. I would simply prefer he lose to someone compeent. Right now I see Nevada in a no win situation. Even those on you side have refered to Angle as a nutter. Go back and read this thread.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You misread. I don't care if Reid loses. I would simply prefer he lose to someone compeent. Right now I see Nevada in a no win situation. Even those on you side have refered to Angle as a nutter. Go back and read this thread.

    So what makes you think that Angle would be a bad choice?


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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

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    So what makes you think that Angle would be a bad choice?


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    Listening to her.

    Her critics have admonished her for, among other things, deeming a BP fund of oil spill victims a "slush fund;" suggesting tea party followers will resort to "Second Amendment remedies" if Washington is not reformed; concluding that unemployment benefits have "spoiled our citizenry;" and blasting Democrats for pushing public benefits to "make government our God."

    Sharron Angle Rewrites Policy Positions in Nevada Senate Race - US News and World Report

    Not to mention her attack ads are as bad as any:

    Angle’s Shocking - and Misleading - Viagra Claim | FactCheck.org

    Angle’s Blame Game, Reprise | FactCheck.org

    Not that truh matters mind you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Giving power to a nutter is not returning power to the people. The people would have done better to make sure a valid candidate made to the ballot. I not espouse to the theory that anyone will do. They should at least meet a minimal standard.
    A freshman senator does not have the power of the majority leader

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