Boo Radley
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From what I can tell of it, from your perspective, he probably was the better choice. After all I don't think you would stray from the (D) column even if you agreed with the repub.
Tell yourself what you have to.
Currently though, he is ruining the economy. To the point where even his own staff have kicked around the 'one term President' thing. All he, and liberals do at this point, is smear their political opponents, and continue to take every measure possible to evade ownership of their choices by casting blame where ever they can other than themselves. It is truly childish.
More hyperbole. Presidents don't control the economy. He can't save it and he can't ruin it.
Actually he is in part. His road shows before this latest one was about half comedy. But I know, he's not a comedian you approve of, so it doesn't count.:roll:
He would work better as a satire, but no. He presents him self as someone who is saying something honest. he isn't.
Have you been paying attention to what he, and his administration, hell, the uber liberals in congress for that matter have been doing the past two years? Have you noticed whom he has surrounded himself with? Do you not, at least in private consider the authoritarian bent he takes against those who buck him? It ain't that much of a stretch there Joe.:shock:
Guilt by association? Any new tricks? No, I see no authoritarian bent. Read about LBJ if you really want to see someone with an authoritarian bent.
We give you facts, you ignore them. We try reason, you ignore that. Instead you continually come back with schoolyard complaints and name calling as if that were enough. I am only glad I haven't paid for this course from you. I'd demand my money back.
J, miscontruded conclusions are nto and never will be fact. Take the quote you use as an example. The quote is a fact. the conclusion drawn is not. And if you read the article honestly, you would see it was not what Beck claimed it to be. Like I said, a lair starts with a little truth and then misrepresents it, adds to it, changes it into something that is a distortion. That is what beck did. He moved the goal post from qualifications to socialism without so much as an explination and took those who willingly suspend disbelief with him.
Is that right? Maybe you missed the 10-2-10 circus show....Take a look at who backed it....
Part two:
God that was horrible. You actuially buy this garbage?
Let's look at the Newsweek artilce he misrepresents:
The U.S. government has already—under a conservative Republican administration—effectively nationalized the banking and mortgage industries.
We Are All Socialists Now - Newsweek
This article more accruate speaks to people like the tea party who want smaller government but don't want their medicare touched. This was a look at us the people and not Obama so much. They don't at any point call Obama a socialist.
We remain a center-right nation in many ways—particularly culturally, and our instinct, once the crisis passes, will be to try to revert to a more free-market style of capitalism—but it was, again, under a conservative GOP administration that we enacted the largest expansion of the welfare state in 30 years: prescription drugs for the elderly. People on the right and the left want government to invest in alternative energies in order to break our addiction to foreign oil. And it is unlikely that even the reddest of states will decline federal money for infrastructural improvements.
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This is not to say that berets will be all the rage this spring, or that Obama has promised a croissant in every toaster oven. But the simple fact of the matter is that the political conversation, which shifts from time to time, has shifted anew, and for the foreseeable future Americans will be more engaged with questions about how to manage a mixed economy than about whether we should have one.
So, once again, beck is taking a little truth and lying. And his audience chooses to willing suspend their disbelief and ask no serious questions.
Oh, so you don't have to actually prove wrong the claims of Beck or anyone that opposes the President....Hmmm...I see. But if it is Obama, or supporters making any claims, they don't have to provide evidence of their claims, it is then up to the target of their smears to prove the claims wrong. Ask Chamber of Commerce.....I see.
No, you don't see. Instead you simply choose to miss the point, see the evidence, listen to what has been said or carefully inspect your own thought process. And I have never suggest Obama doesn't have to prove his arguments. Or that his supports don't have to support their claims. This is again you trying to skew the debate in order to have to deal with the truth.
Read:
To get up to speed with liberal tactics today.
j-mac
Why? Just because he gives you an excuse not to reason through something doesn't mean he's worthy of being read. From what you and others have quoted of him he seems like a whinny wus who doesn't want to actually tackle an argument. I see no value it that.