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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    So, essentially, you have almost no childcare experience yet you're perfectly ok with telling other people, who have MORE experience with it than you, that they're doing it wrong because it doesnt meet your meager experience?
    So now its I do not have enough experience?

    I am sure that you will avoid answering this question that I have already asked more than once but I will ask again. Are you saying your parents caved into your demands when ever you pestered or nagged them for something after they told you no?




    I know you dont have to be Steven Spielberg to tell someone a movie sucked, but it helps if you've seen more than a handful movies.

    I think you are you are just trying to excuse lousy parenting. Lousy parents do not know how to tell their kids no and do not punish their children when they keep pestering or nagging. If you punish kids for pestering and nagging after being told no they will stop pestering and nagging. Its how you get a child to stop doing any undesirable behavior. You have to be an authoritarian when it comes to kids.


    And yes, I am harping on this point because it's important.
    The difference between your Spielburg rant is that unlike someone who not seen all of Spielberg's movies and making a criticism is that anybody has grown up around a parental figure all their life knows how their parental figure has punished them when they did something wrong. So these analogies you keep bringing up are pointless and unrelated. If your parents were great parents then you just have to do what they did when they raised you.
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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So now its I do not have enough experience?

    I am sure that you will avoid answering this question that I have already asked more than once but I will ask again. Are you saying your parents caved into your demands when ever you pestered or nagged them for something after they told you no?
    Some times yes sometimes no. This is about more than lousy parenting though.

    But while obesity may not be the Black Death, it is a severe public health crisis. Experts agree that as more and more obese children become obese adults, the diseases associated with obesity, such as heart disease, cancer, and especially diabetes will surge. That will mean a lot of sick people.

    According to Marion Nestle, PhD, MPH, chair of the department of nutrition and food studies at New York University, the costs of these illnesses will be "astronomical."

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/o...c-astronomical

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Some times yes sometimes no. This is about more than lousy parenting though.

    But while obesity may not be the Black Death, it is a severe public health crisis. Experts agree that as more and more obese children become obese adults, the diseases associated with obesity, such as heart disease, cancer, and especially diabetes will surge. That will mean a lot of sick people.

    According to Marion Nestle, PhD, MPH, chair of the department of nutrition and food studies at New York University, the costs of these illnesses will be "astronomical."

    Obesity Epidemic "Astronomical"
    How can you blame the parents when they are following the nutritional guidelines set down by the federal government? Nutritional guidelines that are the result of a flawed study in the early 70's.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    I guess McDonalds will just have to get by on the quality of their food

    However, I don't see what the big deal is here. If a small town decides they want a standard (as opposed to the federal government), I don't see what the fuss is about, especially given the large number of people here who want these sorts of decisions made at the local level.
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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL - they need to start packaging the toys with the adult meals THAT would be genius.

    "A #1 with a large Dr Pepper and fries, please"
    ". . . for a boy or a girl?"

    Straight up - I'd go for that. . . I dig it when they give away the glasses and occasional adult-collectible.
    I've bought happy meals before for myself because I wanted the toy.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    How can you blame the parents when they are following the nutritional guidelines set down by the federal government? Nutritional guidelines that are the result of a flawed study in the early 70's.
    Errr I did not blame the parents though I do think they share in the responsibility. And what study are you talking about. On a quick google I found out that dietary guidelines are updated every 5 years. That is over 30 years of revisions.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    How can you blame the parents when they are following the nutritional guidelines set down by the federal government? Nutritional guidelines that are the result of a flawed study in the early 70's.
    Who the **** follows federal nutritional guidlines? It's easy to blame parents for doing that. Because they CHOOSE to do it. There's tons of information out there and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that McDonalds is unhealthy food and sitting on the couch isn't exercise. If a kid is morbidly obese, they didn't start that way. They gained weight gradually, something a parent would notice. My sis noticed my niece gaining wieght the last few months and looking pudgier. She enrolled her in karate classes to get her more exercise. So yeah, the parents play a huge, HUGE role in the health of their child. McDonalds is not to blame, not in any way, shape, or form.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Errr I did not blame the parents though I do think they share in the responsibility. And what study are you talking about. On a quick google I found out that dietary guidelines are updated every 5 years. That is over 30 years of revisions.
    By the 1970's, there was a growing body of research relating overconsumption of certain dietary components--such as fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, and sodium--and the risk of some chronic diseases, such as heart disease and stroke.

    A new direction for dietary guidance was set in 1977 with the release of the Dietary Goals for the United States by the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs, popularly known as the "McGovern Committee" (28). The Dietary Goals shifted the focus from obtaining adequate amounts of vitamins and minerals to avoiding excessive intakes of food components that had been linked to chronic diseases.
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    The study was flawed because the scientist didn't run the statistics in both directions. He used as a basis the diets of Japanese people for a low fat diet, but didn't account for the effects of what a low fat diet does without the proper intake of other types of food. This is why we eat a low fat and high carb diet. A low fat, high carb diet leads to obesity since carbs are sugars. The Japanese eat a low fat, low carb diet with more protiens. The scientist recommended using half of the Japanese diet of low fat, but increased the amount of carbs.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Who the **** follows federal nutritional guidlines? It's easy to blame parents for doing that. Because they CHOOSE to do it. There's tons of information out there and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that McDonalds is unhealthy food and sitting on the couch isn't exercise. If a kid is morbidly obese, they didn't start that way. They gained weight gradually, something a parent would notice. My sis noticed my niece gaining wieght the last few months and looking pudgier. She enrolled her in karate classes to get her more exercise. So yeah, the parents play a huge, HUGE role in the health of their child. McDonalds is not to blame, not in any way, shape, or form.
    All of our prepackaged food follows the federal guidelines. The fault lies with the government and the companies that put in HFCS into a low fat, high carb diet. Carbs are a sugar and combined with HFCS it is a double whammy effect. Add in the fact that HFCS doesn't trigger the brain's I'm full response, people overeat because their bodies do not know when to stop eating. No signal means that their brain is telling them that they aren't getting enough food.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    All of our prepackaged food follows the federal guidelines.
    And whose fault is it for buying and cooking pre-packaged food?

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