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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    ...One, the kid is not old enough to understand that asking repeatedly is more likely to piss someone off than get what you want and the parent is already willing to acquiesce to the request anyways. Two, the parent doesnt see a good reason for saying no. Three, the kid finally bugs the parent into saying yes. We all have finite patience and kids can wear on that patience like nothing else.
    Not really 3 there as you have 2 points listed in #1... then repeat them in #2 and #3. So it really boils down to:

    1. The parent didn't CARE enough to say no (aka they are fine with their child eating crap).
    2. The kid pisses the parent off enough to make them cave.

    In both cases the parent is to blame. If the kid is pissing you off, send them to their room. Give them a book. Turn off the breaker to the room if need be. No need to get all smacky or turn all authoritarian on them. No means no and kids need to learn this. My mother owns a preschool and she has each and every one of the bratty new 2 and 3 year old ones whipped into shape in a matter of days. They all love her at the end, and so do the parents when the kid starts LISTENING to them.

    But nope the poor helpless parent that is so overwhelmed by their child's annoying behavior can't just be expected to say NO when Ronald Mcdonald peddles his chinese plastic crap to their kid via commercials... no way they can actually spend some time with them instead of plopping them down in front of the TV in the first place... we know that parents have WORK to do all day.

    Yup. Let's just make it illegal. Way easier, and hey who gives a **** about the actual RESPONSIBLE parent next door that can SOMEHOW manage to slip in a few trips here and there over to mcdonalds for a kids meal AND a toy, all while keeping their child(ren) happy, under control, and HEALTHY.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    A babysitter doesnt have to do anything except keep the little snot alive until mommy and daddy come to pick them up. It takes almost no skill and can be done by a trained monkey.
    A babysitter feeds children probably twice a day depending on what time of day that person babysits. Children do the same stuff in front of a baby sitter that they would in front of their parents which throw fits and many other things a child would do in front of their parents.

    I'm confused how you plan to work that extrapolation from my own parents.
    They didn't cave to your demands did they when you threw a fit or pestered the hell out of them for something?

    No, my nieces and nephews stayed very healthy while I took care of them. We went for fast food maybe once or twice a month.
    So it was not hard to tell them no if they nagged or pestered for candy?

    Parents feel obligated to give in to nagging because of a couple of reasons. One, the kid is not old enough to understand that asking repeatedly is more likely to piss someone off than get what you want and the parent is already willing to acquiesce to the request anyways.
    This is why you punish the child if the child repeatedly keeps asking for something after being told no. You can spank the child, have the child stand in the corner or some other form of punishment that is immediate and that the child is able to understand that doing certian things have undesired results or consequences.



    Two, the parent doesnt see a good reason for saying no.

    ****ty parents like these are why there are obese kids

    Three, the kid finally bugs the parent into saying yes. We all have finite patience and kids can wear on that patience like nothing else.
    Again this is why you punish the child when that child pesters or nags you for something. It is not that ****ing hard.

    Everyone (and I do mean EVERYONE) has given in to something or agreed to something because the person trying to convince them has just bugged the **** out of them to get them to agree, it works the same way with kids.
    When you cave you encourage that behavior. You basically tell that child that "no" just means bug the **** out of someone to get what you want.

    And because I'm losing faith in the ability of certain individuals here to understand that because I dont implicitly state something, I dont believe in it,
    When you try to question someone's experience in handling children it looks like you are trying to excuse ****ty parenting with the Oh do not know what its like card.

    yes some parents do give in because they find it difficult to say no to their kids.
    They cave because they are weak willed.

    Lumping all parents who agree when a child nags into this last category is incredibly stupid.
    No its not. Parents all of the world know how to tell their kid no and how to remedy the situation if the child persists in whining or nagging for something. Some use spankings, if standing a child in a corner works then they use that, if taking a toy away works then they do that, they do what ever it takes to make the child understand that pestering or nagging for something will only have undesirable consequences.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Advertising directly to the kids DOES impact the parent's buying habits. If it didn't, McDonald's wouldn't include the toys in the first place because they'd be a waste of money.
    McDonalds is not the only one who gives a prize with their childrens meal, practically any fast food chain gives a toy or some other prize. Even a resturaunt gives a couple of crayons and a coloring page to children.


    Imagine if cigarette companies started giving away little toys with every pack of cigarettes they sold.
    They used to give out baseball cards and other kinds of cards and sometime later you could save the UPCs to purchase lighters and other things. I do not know if they still do that I haven't smoked in years.

    There would be an uproar, and rightly so.
    Only with the anti-smoking nazis.

    Sure, parents could CHOOSE to not buy them for their kids...but obviously some would. More than would otherwise, if the toy was not included.
    Parents would not buy their children cigarette regardless of what came with it. Now if a parent smokes or collects stuff then it might entice that parent to buy that brand of cigarettes for him or herself. If they did buy their children cigarettes then they would have to be some ****ed up parents.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    he children can have a statin after they eat at McDonalds,tongue-in-cheek, so there u go lads

    just passing by and let them do that.

    mikeey

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They used to give out baseball cards and other kinds of cards and sometime later you could save the UPCs to purchase lighters and other things. I do not know if they still do that I haven't smoked in years.
    LOL I have a tent, a lantern, and an awesome fleece sweater from my Marlboro Miles.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Oh, those wacky Californians, conditioning children at an early age that it's ok for the governement to tell you what to eat.
    Where I live the govt goes so far as to tell restaurants how to run their businesses--who they can and can't hire, how many hand-washing sinks they must have, etc. The govt even goes so far as to tell a business what temperature their refrigerators need to be. Talk about Big Brother, sheesh.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    LOL I have a tent, a lantern, and an awesome fleece sweater from my Marlboro Miles.
    Does Marlboro still do that? Or did the anti-smoking nazis put a stop to that?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Does Marlboro still do that? Or did the anti-smoking nazis put a stop to that?
    I think it has been stopped.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Does Marlboro still do that? Or did the anti-smoking nazis put a stop to that?
    Oh the nazis put a stop to it. I mean, you can't allow **** like that, after all.

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    Re: Happy Meal Toys Endangered Species In San Francisco

    There is nothing wrong with eating at McDonalds on occassion.

    Just take a peak at the parents of the kids that eat there too much. It's not a mystery, folks.

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