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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I thought so...Well consider the source I always say....

    so all conservatives are stupid...Very nice. I guess I'll take that over just being a jack ass.

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    Here j-mac, If I can't prove why all conservatives are stupid, I'll at the very least explain why you are stupid. Coronado and ric27 were having a conversation regarding the mythological belief that O'Donnell has that China was to invade the United States. Now I took issue with the conversation because not only is it stupid to believe that China is to invade the U.S. in the future, it's also nonsensical from the perspective of political science, philosophy and history. The economic loss piled up with the innumerable amount of people(most of the poor peasants in Capitalist-China) it would affect would be more than enough for China to simply tell itself that it's not worth it.

    Now, I know to somebody as stupid as you the proposal of a conspiracy theory as a legitimate opinion would be nothing more than a 'different view'. But the reality is that in the real world, saying such things is seen as a sign of stupidity, ignorance and all other knowledge related illnesses which plague the Conservative base of the American right. So what did I do? I commented to Coronado that such opinions should not be taken seriously as they are nothing more than an effort by insignificant people to be seen as relevant. This theory regarding human nature was put forth in a book I read by Matt Taibi, who by the way is a great satirist of American life.

    Now personally? I hold no grudges against you. I just find you to be stupid because stupid people as I have witnessed them on this forum hold firm in the belief that red herrings are to be taken seriously. Regardless of the fact that they bear zero relevance to what is being discussed in the thread. Now, I know that the concept of context may seem to be alien and far too complex for you as you have just displayed a complete inability to see a difference in satire and political theory but please try to keep up? I did not for one second state that Matt Taibi was right in his beliefs all the time. I simply stated that in my opinion he was correct in his diagnosis of the kind of stupidity that plagues people like you and ric27.
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    The US would be absolutely nucking futs to go to war to protect Taiwan from the mainland.
    What are your reasons for saying that?

    That is definitely not going to trigger WWIII.
    Anyone who thinks that we WON'T eventually fight a war with China is living in a fool's paradise.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What are your reasons for saying that?



    Anyone who thinks that we WON'T eventually fight a war with China is living in a fool's paradise.
    Simple cost/benefit analysis is why we won't fight the PRC for Taiwan. This has nothing to do with China, by the way. They know we aren't going to intervene in what they consider a domestic matter, other than to sell arms to Taiwan.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Here j-mac, If I can't prove why all conservatives are stupid, I'll at the very least explain why you are stupid. Coronado and ric27 were having a conversation regarding the mythological belief that O'Donnell has that China was to invade the United States. Now I took issue with the conversation because not only is it stupid to believe that China is to invade the U.S. in the future, it's also nonsensical from the perspective of political science, philosophy and history. The economic loss piled up with the innumerable amount of people(most of the poor peasants in Capitalist-China) it would affect would be more than enough for China to simply tell itself that it's not worth it.

    Now, I know to somebody as stupid as you the proposal of a conspiracy theory as a legitimate opinion would be nothing more than a 'different view'. But the reality is that in the real world, saying such things is seen as a sign of stupidity, ignorance and all other knowledge related illnesses which plague the Conservative base of the American right. So what did I do? I commented to Coronado that such opinions should not be taken seriously as they are nothing more than an effort by insignificant people to be seen as relevant. This theory regarding human nature was put forth in a book I read by Matt Taibi, who by the way is a great satirist of American life.

    Now personally? I hold no grudges against you. I just find you to be stupid because stupid people as I have witnessed them on this forum hold firm in the belief that red herrings are to be taken seriously. Regardless of the fact that they bear zero relevance to what is being discussed in the thread. Now, I know that the concept of context may seem to be alien and far too complex for you as you have just displayed a complete inability to see a difference in satire and political theory but please try to keep up? I did not for one second state that Matt Taibi was right in his beliefs all the time. I simply stated that in my opinion he was correct in his diagnosis of the kind of stupidity that plagues people like you and ric27.
    Thats quite offensive
    diagnosis of the kind of stupidity that plagues people like you and ric27

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Thats quite offensive
    Sometimes, the truth really hurts.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What are your reasons for saying that?
    Because a war with China will be very risky and expensive in both human and dollar terms. It's a very stupid thing to go to war against China and we wouldn't really get anything out of it. What the hell do we get by protecting Taiwan? Nadda, zip, nothing! More debt and more dead Americans is all that will result. Coronado is absolutely right, the US would be absolutely insane and stupid to go to war against China to protect Taiwan

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Anyone who thinks that we WON'T eventually fight a war with China is living in a fool's paradise.
    Perhaps, but I think we should only go to war against China if China directly attacks us.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Thats quite offensive
    Why is being called 'stupid' offensive? I think you should take it as a sign that you need to better yourself. Not an insult. There is a cure. It's called logic. Your beliefs as illogical and thus to me they're nothing more than the rantings of somebody who is currently 'stupid'. Look at it this way, if your beliefs and application of history were actually persuasive enough, it would be I who would consider myself as stupid in regards to a particular subject. It has happened many times. I have had long drawn out discussions with people on topics that I admitted I was stupid on. It's when you take your opinion to be the reality regardless of what that reality is that you become truly stupid. Not when you first admit that it's nothing more than an opinion and second are open to discussion. As this conservation has drawn out it has become obvious to me that you're stupid because of the fact that your arguments are not based on any logical compiling of evidence.
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Simple cost/benefit analysis is why we won't fight the PRC for Taiwan. This has nothing to do with China, by the way. They know we aren't going to intervene in what they consider a domestic matter, other than to sell arms to Taiwan.
    China already published a book on the 9/11 attacks, a few years before they happened. Written by a pair of Chinese Generals. They think long term. By the way, they already have aircraft carriers, and are rapidly getting more from the Russians. They think differently from us, and have the hands in all the pockets here already.

    There have been public statements by Chinese military leadership about how they'll vaporize L.A. if we don't give them Taiwan. In China those guys get promoted. Here they'd get fired and be forced to attend a Chinese cultural awareness seminar.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Anyone who thinks that we WON'T eventually fight a war with China is living in a fool's paradise.
    Why would it be in China's interest to wage a conventional war?

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    There have been public statements by Chinese military leadership about how they'll vaporize L.A. if we don't give them Taiwan. In China those guys get promoted. Here they'd get fired and be forced to attend a Chinese cultural awareness seminar.
    Evidence plz?

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