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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    That's fantastic. What does that have to do with China going to war with us?
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    1 - China goes after the Spratly islands (massive oil reserves) or Taiwan. What would , the US do?

    2 - A China/India conflict. What would , the US do?

    3 - Israel/Iran conflict. What would , the US do?.....What would China do?

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

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    You have to go beyond "the box thinking"....Mister Asparagus

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    1 - China goes after the Spratly islands (massive oil reserves) or Taiwan. What would , the US do?
    We don't get involved.

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    2 - A China/India conflict. What would , the US do?
    We don't get involved

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    3 - Israel/Iran conflict. What would , the US do?.....What would China do?
    China doesn't get involved, and we probably don't either.
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Uh, China and India did fight a war.

    Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    You have to go beyond "the box thinking"....Mister Asparagus


    1 - China goes after the Spratly islands (massive oil reserves) or Taiwan. What would , the US do?

    2 - A China/India conflict. What would , the US do?

    3 - Israel/Iran conflict. What would , the US do?.....What would China do?
    We go for a depressed trajectory shot, take out their nuclear missiles, problem solved. Hell, I'd say its more likely the United States declares war on China than vice versa. Think about it, we wouldn't have to recognize our debts to them, we could wipe out our trade imbalance, and we remove our biggest political/economic rival.
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Perhaps, but I'm also thinking about what the Chinese would like to do, at least as far as what our specialists are looking at. China has never really been much for truly expansive behavior, save a few instances (Taiwan, for example). They have mostly been interested in their own borders.
    Which is why they claim territory possessed by more than half dozen countries, claim an EEZ that runs almost all the way to Japan's Ryukyu Islands, claim the entire South China Sea as their own, etc.... yeah, right... They launched a war against India to gain territory, invaded and occupied Tibet in the 1950s ... not expansionist? You obviously aren't reading between the tea leaves when it comes to Chinese rhetoric...
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Which is why they claim territory possessed by more than half dozen countries, claim an EEZ that runs almost all the way to Japan's Ryukyu Islands, claim the entire South China Sea as their own, etc.... yeah, right... They launched a war against India to gain territory, invaded and occupied Tibet in the 1950s ... not expansionist? You obviously aren't reading between the tea leaves when it comes to Chinese rhetoric...
    China is the next British empire. They are looking to sate their need for precious metals, and tangible goods. As such, they are expanding their sphere of influence into the Indian ocean by establishing ports in many cities in that region. Imperialism in a traditional sense is dead, because of the threat of MAD, countless defensive pacts, and (to a lesser extent) the UN.

    If China is going to maintain any expansionist policies, they will be subtle, and economical
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    China is the next British empire. They are looking to sate their need for precious metals, and tangible goods. As such, they are expanding their sphere of influence into the Indian ocean by establishing ports in many cities in that region. Imperialism in a traditional sense is dead, because of the threat of MAD, countless defensive pacts, and (to a lesser extent) the UN.

    If China is going to maintain any expansionist policies, they will be subtle, and economical
    An astute assessment.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Well,

    with O'Donnell outing the treacherous Chinese...
    and Palin defending us from dastardly Soviet threats on the Alaskan front....
    and Hillary landing underfire in war torn Bosnia.....
    and Pelosi seeking to pat good willed Iranians on the butt for their efforts in Iraq during the surge....

    we are in good experienced hands.

    Got to love a Fire Team of idiots.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well,

    with O'Donnell outing the treacherous Chinese...
    and Palin defending us from dastardly Soviet threats on the Alaskan front....
    and Hillary landing underfire in war torn Bosnia.....
    and Pelosi seeking to pat good willed Iranians on the butt for their efforts in Iraq during the surge....

    we are in good experienced hands.

    Got to love a Fire Team of idiots.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    We don't get involved.



    We don't get involved



    China doesn't get involved, and we probably don't either.
    The US has long pursued a goal of democratization in the belief that stable democracies provide the most liberty to their people and are least inclined to pursue wars of aggression against their neighbors. I believe this to be true....up to a point. And that's the rub. There are cultures that just have different values. Their desires and values are incompatible with western democracy and concepts of individual freedom.

    Will we learn from this? Probably not. Unfortunately, a huge segment of the American population is incapable of really deep thought and analysis. They don't have the patience to really study stuff (it's boring!) since they aren't in school and they didn't study in school anyway. They can't really understand that there are people who think in radically different patterns and don't want a world in our image. And they can't grasp that Maslow's hierarchy of needs may not be correct for all people.

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