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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So basically you didn't prove me wrong.
    Instead of finding a way to prove me wrong about the assertion that niether the Chinese or America have anything to gain from a genocidal destructive nuclear war that would destroy both countries...

    You start talking about terrorism and other things that have nothing to do with the OP or your original point....

    Report: China, Iran, North Korea have formed strategic alliance

    China, Iran and North Korea: A Triangular Strategic Alliance," by Israel's GLORIA Center said China and North Korea were the key suppliers of Scud-based ballistic missiles to Iran's military, the target of Western sanctions.
    If you're Chinese, it makes sense. Iran doesn't like us and China is getting ready for war. They can sell weapons to Iran and get oil in exchange.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Again, you don't understand terrorists or terrorism and before, I continue there is enough unaccounted for plutonium to make several bombs. Nuclear material is readily available from the former Soviet Union and from N. Korea. Period

    The cost since then can be counted in the billions. It is counted in the millions who changed their lives and were afraid to travel or visit possible target cities. The goal of a terrorist attack is to create terror. To cause a change. The actual number of deaths is merely a collateral effect....
    The present fear doesn't remotely compare to the fear of a nuclear attack in the 50s through 70s. We lived through it then, we'll do it again.

    The only nuclear parts available from Russia are rods, rods they furnished Iran for their nuc power plants. As for N Korea nucs, a team of UN 24 scientists destroyed all traces. It was covered on TV news.

    Before you spread your own brand of terror, catch up with the latest news.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And prior to 1940, Japan's largest trading partner was The United States. Ric! You're on to something here!
    France was invaded because it was a neighbor as were the other countries bordering German. We were strangling Japan's oil supply hence Pearl Harbor. Then of course we went to war with them.

    Trying to make a comparison to China is just plain silly and shows an igorance of history.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Read up on Chinese history both old and modern - full of proof that the lives of their citizens are not important to the government

    Slaughtering millions in the cultural revolution, killing protesters in Tiananmen Square, prisoners labor in slave labor camps and when they die or are executed, their organs are harvested.
    I really get tired of people misrepresenting situations like this. The Cultural Revolution was effectively a civil war. Red Guards and the PLA actually had battles with each other in several areas. What happened in Beijing in 1989 (there is no indication anyone was actually killed in the Square) was regrettable, but it was not some deliberate massacre of innocent protesters. Soldiers were killed, beaten, and even set on fire. Some units cracked down harder than others, but we were talking about millions of people and who knows how many actually attacking soldiers. That the number was most likely only in the hundreds indicates it was not a massacre.

    Labor camps are hardly unusual either as many countries punish minor criminals (the people generally sent to the labor camps with the overwhelming majority having been convicted of a real crime) by forcing them to engage in some sort of unpaid labor. Some prisons have engaged in illicit activities like organ harvesting, but the Chinese government has been taking measures to stop such acts.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    China isn't ready to go to war with us yet, but make no mistake, they will. Right now they are sucking in huge bucks selling us stuff and making our economy dependent on their industry.

    Before you say that it makes no sense that they would start a war with their largest trading partner, wars seldom make much sense after they've started. Guess which nation was Germany's largest trading partner prior to 1940? Answer: France.
    That may have had something to do with the surrender terms of WWI....
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The term "Social Conservative" is an oxymoron.
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Report: China, Iran, North Korea have formed strategic alliance



    If you're Chinese, it makes sense. Iran doesn't like us and China is getting ready for war. They can sell weapons to Iran and get oil in exchange.
    They can sell things to Iran and get oil without engaging in military conflict with the most powerful armed forces the planet has ever seen.

    You've yet to demonstrate what, exactly, China would stand to gain from attacking us. You've been asked several times. Obviously, you have nothing. China can sell things to Iran without getting their faces smashed in by a carrier battle group or six. Much better outcomes that way.
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They can sell things to Iran and get oil without engaging in military conflict with the most powerful armed forces the planet has ever seen.

    You've yet to demonstrate what, exactly, China would stand to gain from attacking us. You've been asked several times. Obviously, you have nothing. China can sell things to Iran without getting their faces smashed in by a carrier battle group or six. Much better outcomes that way.
    Deuce - The Chinese population outnumbers us...I believe it's 5:1. Their undocumented, i.e. unreported births, population is 300,000,000 (That is equal to the entire US population)

    Ok, why the unreported births?

    Do you remember China's attempt at pop control via a rule of “one child per family,” with financial penalties for having more than one kid. What most Americans did not realize, and what Beijing will not admit, is that the family is by far the most important unit of loyalty in Chinese culture. Many families went ahead and had 2, 3, 4 kids and simply never reported the births to local municipal authorities.

    China could trade US casualties one for one until there wasn't an American left, and it would bring their population down to their official level.

    Chinese aren't the mullahs we're talking about, they don't shoot from the hip, and they plan decades ahead. They are far more calculating than any western capitalist could ever hope to be, and don't think for a second that they won't factor in the potential costs of a campaign before they become enamored with its potential benefits.

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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    If you are just coming to a point when you ask what China's long term goald are you have no idea of what Chins as been going from the very day that President Nixon opened China to trade, you have not been paying attention.

    In general all Socialist/Communist/Marxist/Maoist to survive must expand in natural, agricultural, manufacturing, and human resources of face implosion because the System drains all of these resources domestically, along with all the incentives of those who once were the RICH who were over Taxed in order to fulfill the whole manta: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    It comes to a point when the system collapses and there are no more rich or pecieved rich to take from to give to those who take but contribute little.

    End of story, O'Donnell got it right. There is no greater prize on earth than th U.S.A. that is what the Soviet Union had in mind before it's collapse.
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    Re: O'Donnell said China plotting to take over US

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Deuce - The Chinese population outnumbers us...I believe it's 5:1. Their undocumented, i.e. unreported births, population is 300,000,000 (That is equal to the entire US population)

    Ok, why the unreported births?

    Do you remember China's attempt at pop control via a rule of “one child per family,” with financial penalties for having more than one kid. What most Americans did not realize, and what Beijing will not admit, is that the family is by far the most important unit of loyalty in Chinese culture. Many families went ahead and had 2, 3, 4 kids and simply never reported the births to local municipal authorities.

    China could trade US casualties one for one until there wasn't an American left, and it would bring their population down to their official level.

    Chinese aren't the mullahs we're talking about, they don't shoot from the hip, and they plan decades ahead. They are far more calculating than any western capitalist could ever hope to be, and don't think for a second that they won't factor in the potential costs of a campaign before they become enamored with its potential benefits.
    What, for ****'s sake, would China gain by engaging in a military conflict with the world's most powerful armed forces?

    Either answer the question or drop this derail.
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