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    Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    AMSTERDAM Dutch anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders went on trial Monday for alleged hate speech, even as his popularity and influence in the Netherlands are near all time highs.

    Prosecutors say Wilders incited hatred against Muslims with remarks comparing Islam to Naziism and by calling for a ban on the Quran. Wilders argues he has a right to freedom of speech and his remarks were within the bounds of the law.

    If convicted, he faces up to a year in prison.

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    "I've had enough of Islam in the Netherlands; let not one more Muslim immigrate," he wrote in the paper. "I've had enough of the Quran in the Netherlands: Forbid that fascist book."

    The flamboyant bleach-blond politician has also called for taxing clothing commonly worn by Muslims, such as headscarves or "head rags," as he called them because they "pollute" the Dutch landscape. He may be best known for the 2008 short film "Fitna," which offended Muslims around the world by juxtaposing Quranic verses with images of terrorism by Islamic radicals.

    The Associated Press: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Apparently, Wilders doesn't yet realize just how destructive Shria based tolerance gone a muck can effect things we take for granted like free speech according to Islam. Could this type of thing be coming here to America? unchecked, my answer is yes.

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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Apparently, Wilders doesn't yet realize just how destructive Shria based tolerance gone a muck can effect things we take for granted like free speech according to Islam. Could this type of thing be coming here to America? unchecked, my answer is yes.

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    As much as I'd like to say, "Hey! We've got this little thingie called the First Amendment!" I also can see the day that our government will begin to enforce a ban on hate speak. And if ever that's going to happen, I could see anti-Muslim rhetoric being the "test case."
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Apparently, Wilders doesn't yet realize just how destructive Shria based tolerance gone a muck can effect things we take for granted like free speech according to Islam. Could this type of thing be coming here to America? unchecked, my answer is yes.

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    What is more telling to me isn't so much who is wrung up on charges of hate speech in various European countries, but who isn't. If there were any consistancy to their approach, a good portion of their muslim population would be standing trial, themselves.
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As much as I'd like to say, "Hey! We've got this little thingie called the First Amendment!" I also can see the day that our government will begin to enforce a ban on hate speak. And if ever that's going to happen, I could see anti-Muslim rhetoric being the "test case."

    I think at least at this moment it would be a spark point for those already seeing the erosion of our rights under this administration. But, it is interesting that the religion of peace is being so coddled is it not? I mean, this is just another example of Europe's problem with their culture being co opted by Islam.


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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Just look north of the border and the case with Mark Steyn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think at least at this moment it would be a spark point for those already seeing the erosion of our rights under this administration. But, it is interesting that the religion of peace is being so coddled is it not? I mean, this is just another example of Europe's problem with their culture being co opted by Islam.


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    You could not say that in most of central EU without being looked at strangely. They have little clue.

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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Apparently, Wilders doesn't yet realize just how destructive Shria based tolerance gone a muck can effect things we take for granted like free speech according to Islam. Could this type of thing be coming here to America? unchecked, my answer is yes.

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    Yet the fundamentalist wackos in the man made global warming fairy tale religion can get away with making videos were nonbelievers are blown up and snot nose little British school kid punks can make threats.http://www.debatepolitics.com/enviro...post1059018075
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    This sucks, but this could never happen in America because we have nifty first amendment thing. Isn't it awesome!
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This sucks, but this could never happen in America because we have nifty first amendment thing. Isn't it awesome!
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This sucks, but this could never happen in America because we have nifty first amendment thing. Isn't it awesome!
    But, but, you don't understand...The Imams are not preaching hate per se, they are just instructing their followers to kill all nonbelievers.

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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    What is more telling to me isn't so much who is wrung up on charges of hate speech in various European countries, but who isn't. If there were any consistancy to their approach, a good portion of their muslim population would be standing trial, themselves.
    My friend I agree with your assessment of what should be, but I believe that the political correctness, and bending over backwards to be able to claim tolerance for all.

    Something else that I believe inters into this in the minds of some is fear of retaliation.

    Remember Muslim terror suspect tries to assassinate Danish cartoonist. Police shoot and arrest axe-wielding Somali man with links to al-Qa'ida.

    The fact that Geert Wilders may have a few very accurate points doesn't enter into it much.

    It's like the The Tea Party goers being called Racists, haters, and that rude nasty vulgar, term that could be used to disparage a gay man, just because the Tea Party in opposed to the Trifecta of Doom's Attacks on everything this Nation once stood for like the Constitution, and the Values of our Founders.

    Until the world wakes up to the facts, and bans outright ALL CULTS that advocate hate murder, the subjugation of any other person, and that includes allowing for multiple wives, and then each Nation makes it a minimum 10 years at hard labor for any infraction. We will see more and more of this as the Muslims are on the move to take over as the majority all over the world.


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