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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Does not exist anywhere and never has... "free speech" is and always has been an illusion.
    Oh, I know. But compared to the free speech laws individual citizens enjoy in the US, ours are a joke. No one gets arrested for denying the Holocaust, saying racist things or burning or desecrating holy books over there. Not that I think those are good things, I just don't think they should be outlawed.
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    What various European governments do to you to limit free speech almost pales in comparison to what Europeans do to each other. The social pressures applied to make sure everybody is in lock step in regards to the Emperors new clothes looks to be quite overwhelming since just about anybody who dares comment that he is actually naked gets vilified so.
    Well, in all fairness, I see that happening in the US as well. Certain unpopular ideas or offensive words some people have the guts to say out loud pretty much guarantees them social suicide.
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Does anyone think that the New York based Center for Constitutional Rights will ever take the case of someone saying harsh things towards Muslims (???) They have a long history in these selective matters and have represented the old blind Egyptian Sheikh and the killer of Meir Kahane in 1990

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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    Does anyone think that the New York based Center for Constitutional Rights will ever take the case of someone saying harsh things towards Muslims (???) They have a long history in these selective matters and have represented the old blind Egyptian Sheikh and the killer of Meir Kahane in 1990
    CCR is about as radical an institution as you can get here in America.

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