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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Not really sure how, but the OP somehow managed to conclude that this is the Muslims' fault.

    Yes, OP, if those darned Muslims would just stick to countries where they belong, people wouldn't say bigoted things about them!
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Apparently, Wilders doesn't yet realize just how destructive Shria based tolerance gone a muck can effect things we take for granted like free speech according to Islam. Could this type of thing be coming here to America? unchecked, my answer is yes.

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    Just FYI, the free speech Americans take for granted doesn't exist in Europe. It hasn't for a very long time. There are so many restrictions on it, I don't even know how they can even call it "free" anymore.
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    How much does it suck to live in a country where real liberty doesn't exist?
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Not really sure how, but the OP somehow managed to conclude that this is the Muslims' fault.

    Yes, OP, if those darned Muslims would just stick to countries where they belong, people wouldn't say bigoted things about them!
    I believe some may have missed the point here.

    It is not the presents of Muslims that is in question. It is the reality that immigrants have left their homes for what ever reason and moved to a new Nation based on it being better in some way than the place they left, and yet they want to change the new home into something like they left behind.

    I don't blame the Muslims for the changes those who were born there oppose I blame politicians for allowing changes that recognize laws or customs being forced on those who don't want them.

    When it begins here I can only hope that it will be declared Unconstitutional because Sharia laws are essence Religious Laws and there for to enforce them would mean the Government would be not permitting the free exercise there of but would actually be endorsing a religion which is not permitted.

    If anyone is pining for the way home was I say go home or shut up things are the way they are because that is what the place you chose was founded on.
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This sucks, but this could never happen in America because we have nifty first amendment thing. Isn't it awesome!

    I wouldn't be so quick to just fire off that which you take for granted here Star. We certainly see now how policies enacted in the previous administrations can be used by another, like this one, to go even further in curtailing rights which you seemingly defend here, but only to the point in which it bolsters your opinion.


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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Political correctness is simply a tool to protect the weak-minded. I am so tired of it being wrong for people to voice the obvious. How long do governments think their people are going to deal with Islamic terror threats, all-the-while immigrants from nations harboring terrorists are pouring into their nation. Such things are only permitted as long as the population buy into it, wake-up people!

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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How much does it suck to live in a country where real liberty doesn't exist?
    Dunno, tell me since you do.
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Just FYI, the free speech Americans take for granted doesn't exist in Europe. It hasn't for a very long time. There are so many restrictions on it, I don't even know how they can even call it "free" anymore.
    Does not exist anywhere and never has... "free speech" is and always has been an illusion.
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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Does not exist anywhere and never has... "free speech" is and always has been an illusion.
    Only when liberals have power.


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    Re: Dutch politician on trial on hate speech charges

    All laws, treaties, contracts....whatever are merely an illusion. People seem to forget that without the consent of the population none of these ideas are real. The Constitution itself is only concrete as long as the majority of this country decides to observe it and live within its boundaries. If 80% of the nation decided to ignore the laws and do as they wished, no one could stop them. Buy-in is a necessity and sooner or later, the protection of those Muslims who wish to bring Shria law to Western nations are going to find that the laws they are taking advantage of to protect themselves in their movements to change their new home into that of the old one, no longer are enough to protect them.

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