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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Okay, there, Mr. Far Leftie.
    Okay, there, Mr. Far Righty.

    (You were really asking for that one)

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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Even if one wants to deploy the more charitable interpretation, namely that Mr. Sanchez had an emotional outburst related to his failure to achieve the success he had expected at CNN, several points are instructive:

    1. Workplace setbacks can be quite commonplace. Mr. Sanchez's experience is neither unique nor rare.

    2. When such setbacks occur, how one handles them can make a big difference in one's ultimate career evolution. One can respond to adversity by improving areas that need improvement, seeking challenges to demonstrate through one's performance that one can handle the responsibilities associated with the position to which one aspires, etc. On the other hand, one can take what is a self-destructive course of lashing out at others following one's temporary setback.

    3. One should be careful to avoid turning on one's superiors and colleagues, even if it requires some self-restraint. Otherwise, one destroys one's own standing in the workplace. Unless one is a sole proprietor, teamwork is essential to organizational success. Therefore, once one's relationships with one's bosses and peers are shattered, one usually can no longer make a productive contribution in the workplace.

    4. If one feels that a decision is unjust, one should focus completely on the merits of where one believes the decision was unjust. One should address those issues in private so as to avoid putting one's bosses or peers in a position in which they could risk being viewed as weak.

    5. If one feels that one will not gain an opportunity to make a difference in one's firm in the wake of a setback, one should pursue employment with another firm.

    Mr. Sanchez handled his situation very poorly. Moreover, by doing so in a public forum, he created the perception of his being a "problem employee" for would-be employers. Hence, not only did he destroy his tenure at CNN, he undermined prospects for his moving to another major media organization. His reaction signaled a lack of emotional maturity, even as he aspired to an anchor position that demands enormous emotional maturity.

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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    So you are saying is because some Jewish people have been sucessful that they never had to face discrimination.
    Not at all, however they have unquestionably not faced it to the extent other minorities have in the U.S.

    Why do many stars change their name, as Stewart did. His original name is very Jewish sounding, if it is such an advantage why change it?
    There are a lot of reasons for people to change their names, especially entertainers. People from Russia often change their names a bit because most people who speak English would have a difficult time pronouncing the person's formal name. Stewart has apparently implied it was because he and his father had been estranged since his father and mother divorced when he was 11. In other words, it had nothing to do with his last name sounding Jewish.

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    2. When such setbacks occur, how one handles them can make a big difference in one's ultimate career evolution. One can respond to adversity by improving areas that need improvement, seeking challenges to demonstrate through one's performance that one can handle the responsibilities associated with the position to which one aspires, etc. On the other hand, one can take what is a self-destructive course of lashing out at others following one's temporary setback.
    It was not really a matter of improvement. I mean, his ratings weren't as good as the shows on Fox and MSNBC at that point in primetime, but he was against O'Reilly and Olbermann and CNN's ratings in general are not that good. Jon King's show actually got lower ratings than the show Rick Sanchez had. If this Parker-Spitzer thing gets better ratings than Rick's show it would seem a fair change, but if the ratings quickly fall behind what Rick's show had then clearly it was a bad play by CNN.

    At any rate, this cannot be accounted for by claiming his performance was bad. Rather, he was always just a placeholder for the Parker-Spitzer show that seeks to build on the fact everyone knows Spitzer due to his extra-marital affairs with an escort. On a little side-note Spitzer happens to be Jewish.

    3. One should be careful to avoid turning on one's superiors and colleagues, even if it requires some self-restraint. Otherwise, one destroys one's own standing in the workplace. Unless one is a sole proprietor, teamwork is essential to organizational success. Therefore, once one's relationships with one's bosses and peers are shattered, one usually can no longer make a productive contribution in the workplace.

    4. If one feels that a decision is unjust, one should focus completely on the merits of where one believes the decision was unjust. One should address those issues in private so as to avoid putting one's bosses or peers in a position in which they could risk being viewed as weak.

    5. If one feels that one will not gain an opportunity to make a difference in one's firm in the wake of a setback, one should pursue employment with another firm.
    How do you feel about the ethical consequences of this being a business that is supposed to provide people with all the information so that the people can make a reasonable decision? The masses rely on these organizations for the whole story without bias and manipulation. How can anyone trust the media if the people tasked with reporting the news are prohibited or otherwise discouraged from discussing certain subjects fully and honestly?
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    It was not really a matter of improvement. I mean, his ratings weren't as good as the shows on Fox and MSNBC at that point in primetime, but he was against O'Reilly and Olbermann and CNN's ratings in general are not that good.
    When I speak of improvement, in this context, I'm asking whether there were things that Mr. Sanchez could have done to perform better. Was he completely a prisoner of CNN's decisions or did he have some capability to influence factors that could, in turn, impact ratings? My guess is that there was a combination of factors at play. Some dealt with CNN's overall programming. Others that dealt with Mr. Sanchez's on-air performance/presence.

    If this Parker-Spitzer thing gets better ratings than Rick's show it would seem a fair change, but if the ratings quickly fall behind what Rick's show had then clearly it was a bad play by CNN.
    When a station is weak or in decline, it often tries different things to shake up the ratings. Unfortunately, in the case of CNN, I suspect that that poor ratings are a function of a combination of the station's programming and its on-air personalities. IMO, as it increasingly reduced its international on-air content, it eroded what had been an important asset that few broadcasters could match. Its ability to try to mimic the "infotainment" fare of its rivals has not been impressive, information was sacrificed and the entertainment value isn't great. Mr. Spitzer might attract initial interest on account of his notoriety. Whether he will be able to sustain that interest remains to be seen.

    How do you feel about the ethical consequences of this being a business that is supposed to provide people with all the information so that the people can make a reasonable decision? The masses rely on these organizations for the whole story without bias and manipulation. How can anyone trust the media if the people tasked with reporting the news are prohibited or otherwise discouraged from discussing certain subjects fully and honestly?
    I believe journalists should do their best to provide objective, timely, and reliable information that is of value to the audience. When sensitive topics are discussed, reporters should be careful to focus only on the facts and they should provide such context as is necessary to promote understanding. Overgeneralization can create serious problems, especially if it drives away viewers. Reporting on controversial topics needs to be backed by concrete facts that are beyond reasonable dispute.

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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Bastinda View Post
    Yes, I agree. Racism is idiotic, which is why FauxNews specializes in it. It appeals to their core viewers.
    Again, a station accused by those on the left of being too pro-Israel, too sensitive to Jewish sentimentality is going to move in Sanchez's direction?

    Apparently whatever you read appeals to your disdain of common sense.
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    nah, you're right Gibson was just a star, director with more recognition than Sanchez could ever hope to garner.....

    And later apologized for several times on several different shows. See, that's the problem with you libs, is that when it is one of your own that shows racism well it should only be a blurb in the news and enough of that. But when it is a conservative that you don't like, not even displaying any racism, but merely trying to figure out who the beloved one is, well then, we should imprison him, right?
    J-Mac your unbiased perspective is a sight to behold. Sarcasm button off.

    BTW I'm not a liberal. Independent actually, but at least I know bull**** when I see it.
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post

    Mr. Spitzer might attract initial interest on account of his notoriety. Whether he will be able to sustain that interest remains to be seen.
    I won't be watching him even though I am a regular CNN viewer. There are enough sleaseball commentators and pundits out there. We don't need another one. My prediction is he will flop.

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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    CNN (and the whole 24/7 cable-news industry for that matter) hasnt had a good anchor since Bernard Shaw. Perhaps that white haired dude will be able to fill Bernie's shoes eventually.

    As for Rick Sanchez; he was our local newsguy down here in south florida, and surprised the heck out of me that CNN thought he was anchor material. Down here, we never forgot what he was all about...



    On December 10, 1990, Sanchez was in a neighborhood in the vicinity of Joe Robbie Stadium, driving home with his father from football game when he struck Jeffrey Smuzinick, a pedestrian who was inebriated. Sanchez attempted to flee from the location at which the accident occurred after parking. Contrary to statements by witnesses that Sanchez protested in a shrill tone against the evaluation of his blood alcohol content because he believed that his reputation would thereby be damaged, while paying no attention to Smuzinick, Sanchez asserted that he attempted to attract the notice of passing drivers and to render medical assistance.
    Smuzinick was paralyzed and, on November 2, 1995, died in an assisted living facility.


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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    J-Mac your unbiased perspective is a sight to behold. Sarcasm button off.
    I never claimed to be unbiased. Everything from my posting to my affiliation under my name is honest. Don't you wish you could say the same?


    BTW I'm not a liberal. Independent actually

    Oh that's a good one. I can't remember the last time you sided against this current administration in anything in here, but you sure are an independent...


    but at least I know bull**** when I see it.
    Obviously not, you voted for the "hopey/changey" Obama did you not? Yeah, how's that workin' out?


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