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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    They been wanting to get rid of him for a while now so he gave em a great reason. Take Care Ricky. See ya On Faux sometime. Maybe
    He didn't give them a great reason. It was an exaggeration to say "everybody" who runs CNN is Jewish (I think that was what he was saying) but there appear to be many Jews on the board. Of course, I don't know about lower-level positions like producers and managers. I do not doubt that there are a lot of Jews at those lower-level positions as well.

    So really he got fired for no good reason. If someone in the news is not allowed to say something factual about society then it is not really news, but propaganda.
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    I like that for some reason I keep seeing liberal commentators talk about how maybe Fox News will like them. Aside from the liberal bias, would you think that a station consistently accused of being too Zionist by some folks would want a guy like Sanchez spewing anti-Jewish rhetoric?
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I like that for some reason I keep seeing liberal commentators talk about how maybe Fox News will like them. Aside from the liberal bias, would you think that a station consistently accused of being too Zionist by some folks would want a guy like Sanchez spewing anti-Jewish rhetoric?
    He was not spewing "anti-Jewish" rhetoric. He made a legitimate point in a lot of ways. Rick Sanchez was the only Hispanic anchor on any of the cable news shows from what I can tell, while on CNN you have many Jewish anchors. It is disproportionate representation no matter how you look at it. Even in the context of New York City it is disproportionate as there are more Hispanics than Jews in every single borough of New York City.
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    He said something stupid that some could find racist and he is paying the price for it. I am not gonna cry over his dumb ass being fired.
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    He didn't give them a great reason. It was an exaggeration to say "everybody" who runs CNN is Jewish (I think that was what he was saying) but there appear to be many Jews on the board. Of course, I don't know about lower-level positions like producers and managers. I do not doubt that there are a lot of Jews at those lower-level positions as well.

    So really he got fired for no good reason. If someone in the news is not allowed to say something factual about society then it is not really news, but propaganda.
    No doubt there are a lot of Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, whites, blacks, Hispanics, men, woman, etc working at any news network... why then does he single out Jewish people in his rant?


    Please supply a link for this: "there appear to be many Jews on the board".
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    He said something stupid that some could find racist and he is paying the price for it. I am not gonna cry over his dumb ass being fired.
    What he said was not racist or antisemitic or anything else like that. Some might say it was stupid to criticize his bosses like that or say something he knew would offend some of his Jewish bosses, but we are talking about a news organization. A source of information for the masses firing someone for speaking the truth is generally not a good thing.

    If someone seriously suggested he should be a reporter "like John Quiñones" instead of an anchor then him saying many of the people there are bigoted is not unreasonable. I mean they have some black people on there as anchors, most of whom have lighter skin than Fareed Zakaria, and they all have the same basic job: sitting in front of the teleprompter and reading it.

    Saying Jews are not an oppressed minority is just being honest same for saying the people who run CNN and most of the other major news outlets are Jews. Rick Sanchez wasn't suggesting that meant anything other than what he said. His point was calling Jews oppressed in the United States is kind of ridiculous when you are more likely to have a Jewish boss as opposed to a Jewish co-worker.
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    He was not spewing "anti-Jewish" rhetoric. He made a legitimate point in a lot of ways. Rick Sanchez was the only Hispanic anchor on any of the cable news shows from what I can tell, while on CNN you have many Jewish anchors. It is disproportionate representation no matter how you look at it. Even in the context of New York City it is disproportionate as there are more Hispanics than Jews in every single borough of New York City.
    You are probably fine with it but by saying that he made a legitimate point people may feel you are making an anti-semetic statement. Could you imagine someone trying to justify a rant about other groups?

    The good news is that with your statements and others who think like you but are in the closet about it are the reason for the need for the state of Israel. I am sure that people in Germany and Poland had similar thoughts about Jews having undue influence. Russia essentially purged their Jewish population, Etheopia the same.

    Who knows what will happen in America when it loses it's economic and/or military. Know a group that has been a great scapgoat over the centuries?

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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    so DoL, let me ask, does this mean that Mel Gibson is off the hook?


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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Demon of Light, The dude pretty much said the Jews control the media. If you cannot agree that is racist can you at least admit it is buying into a stero-type? And we all know that buying into sterotypes leads to racism.
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    Re: CNN host Rick Sanchez fired after Jon Stewart rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    No doubt there are a lot of Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, whites, blacks, Hispanics, men, woman, etc working at any news network... why then does he single out Jewish people in his rant?
    Well, there is a pretty big gap actually. Larry King was born to a Jewish family, Wolf Blitzer is Jewish, and Jon King converted to Judaism before he married a CNN reporter who is Jewish. Those are three of the biggest personalities on CNN right now and they are all Jewish in one way or another. As far as singling them out, he didn't do any such thing. They were talking about Jon Stewart who is Jewish and Rick Sanchez was talking about minorities that he feels Jon Stewart looks down on and so the host notes that Jon Stewart is Jewish sparking the comment from Sanchez.

    Please supply a link for this: "there appear to be many Jews on the board".
    Well, the President of CNN who just left was definitely Jewish. I wouldn't know about his replacement. I can't find any clear specifics on the following three: Laurie Goldberg: Executive Profile & Biography - BusinessWeek, Mitch Gelman: Executive Profile & Biography - BusinessWeek, and Chris Cramer: Executive Profile & Biography - BusinessWeek.

    However those three seem to have common Jewish surnames. Mind you, Klein, who has been there for some time, was definitely Jewish so if I am right about the three above that means nearly the entire time Sanchez has been working there that several major board positions were held by Jews.

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    You are probably fine with it but by saying that he made a legitimate point people may feel you are making an anti-semetic statement.
    That is because groups like the ADL and other advocates of "tolerance" have tried to get it into people's heads that if something is commonly said by an antisemite than anyone who says it is an antisemite and that if an antisemite says it then it is completely false. Unfortunately, reality does not work that way and if someone just notes the reality they get lambasted in the press as a bigot.

    I read an article in which the author, who was Jewish, talked to the head of the ADL about Jews in the media and he fully acknowledged that there is greatly disproportionate representation of Jews in executive positions in the media, but that it was still antisemitic to say Jews run the media. However, it seems the main reason is that ADL head felt the statement suggested a conspiracy, specifically one by all Jews.

    Of course, if I said the people who run the Cosa Nostra are Italians no one would assume I was suggesting all Italians are part of the mob or suggesting there is some grand Italian conspiracy against non-Italians.

    Could you imagine someone trying to justify a rant about other groups?
    The notion that a middle-class Jew from an affluent suburb who has never seen real adversity in his life can relate to him, a Cuban immigrant with a father that worked blue-collar jobs his whole life, might come off as a tad offensive. This is especially the case when one considers what Sanchez described, which if true definitely amounted to discriminatory and demeaning treatment, and the fact the President of CNN at the time was Jewish and likely many of his other bosses. If instead of talking about Jews they were talking about whites we would be having an entirely different discussion.

    I am sure that people in Germany and Poland had similar thoughts about Jews having undue influence.
    Poland? The Poles were under German occupation and were themselves a target for extermination, though on a longer time frame for practical purposes. I think the fact some 3 million Jews resided in the country before the war speaks volumes about that country's tolerance for its Jewish population.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    so DoL, let me ask, does this mean that Mel Gibson is off the hook?
    Saying Jews are collectively responsible for all war, a blatantly absurd claim, is far different from saying that the people who run the media are generally Jews. Of course, to put things in perspective this largely applies to the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Demon of Light, The dude pretty much said the Jews control the media. If you cannot agree that is racist can you at least admit it is buying into a stero-type? And we all know that buying into sterotypes leads to racism.
    Stereotypes are not automatically false. In fact, more often than not they are based on some element of truth. Here we are talking about it being almost entirely true. Now, someone observing the simple fact that many of the people in senior positions in the media are Jewish might come to think there is something nefarious about that, but that does not mean denying this will help prevent such a thing from happening. Rather, it is more likely to increase the instances as anyone finding out this fact against all efforts to convince them of the contrary will naturally ask the question, "Well why would they feel like this is something they have to hide?"
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