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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The blame is placed on the government, in a democracy the government represents the will of the people. As such the actions taken by the government good or bad with or or without public knowledge is done on behalf of the people
    That's bull****. This was a SECRET PROGRAM which was kept hidden from the American people.

    Why? Because the government knew that the program DID NOT represent the will of the American people.

    You really can't grasp this simplicity?

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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Why would you pay compensation for something you are not responsible for
    Because the people who are responsible are a part of the government and did these things, with the consent of a portion of it.

    "The people" did not decide to do this, a few people did.
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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    That's bull****. This was a SECRET PROGRAM which was kept hidden from the American people.

    Why? Because the government knew that the program DID NOT represent the will of the American people.

    You really can't grasp this simplicity?
    That government and all US governments were elected by the people for the people.


    Secret program or not the government was directly responsible for the action, and the people are indirectly responsible for allowing the government to operate in such secrecy in the first place
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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Because the people who are responsible are a part of the government and did these things, with the consent of a portion of it.

    "The people" did not decide to do this, a few people did.
    I would not be willing to pay compensation for something I did not feel I was in some way responsible for.
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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    That government and all US governments were elected by the people for the people.


    Secret program or not the government was directly responsible for the action, and the people are indirectly responsible for allowing the government to operate in such secrecy in the first place
    What about the people who voted for the other candidate that lost?
    Are they still responsible?
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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I would not be willing to pay compensation for something I did not feel I was in some way responsible for.
    I'd certainly rather go after the estates of those who did the research and granted the authority to move forward with it.
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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Secret program or not the government was directly responsible for the action, and the people are indirectly responsible for allowing the government to operate in such secrecy in the first place
    I see. The people allowed a secrecy they didn't know about... due to secrecy.


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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I certainly don't think that all experimentation that simply effects mass amounts of people is always reprehensible. It's the fact that it was performed without their knowledge or consent that makes it immoral.
    My government does experements on the American people all the time - legislative experiments, economic experiments ... without my consent and sometimes without my knowledge. I'm thinking I need some compensation...
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    My government does experements on the American people all the time - legislative experiments, economic experiments ... without my consent and sometimes without my knowledge. I'm thinking I need some compensation...
    Let me know when the experiements could cause you to die a horrible death as a direct result of the experiement
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    Re: U.S. to apologize for STD experiments in Guatemala

    ****ing Sick! This is another reason why government should be kept very small.
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