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Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

I love how everyone assumes that the other two kids in this story are "bullies". Why are so many people so eager to paint these two kids as vicious, raving homophobes? Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt? Isn't it just as likley that this was simply a prank and the "victim" just happened to be a mentally unstable dude who decided to kill himself?

Thanks.

Someone else who sees this the same way I do.

Its just a freaking prank. And had it been on a heterosexual and his girlfriend, this wouldn't even be an issue, and we wouldn't have forum members calling for the decapitation of the two involved like a bunch of mouth frothing trolls.
 
have you met many 18-19 year olds that acted like "full grown adults"? I haven't, at least not in the last 20 years.

I have. Plenty of them. They had better raising than these ones did. My parents may not have done much right with me, but at least they taught me that bull**** doesn't fly.
 
why does there have to be a "victim"?

There's a victim because there's a damn victim.

there is no evidence of any kind that these two specifically targeted this guy because he was gay. would all you bleeding hearts be screaming and crying if this had been a straight guy doing a girl and then committed suicide because people saw he had a tiny willy?

Yeah, I would be. Gay's got nothing to do with it. Hell, for that matter, suicide's got nothing to do with it-- because if this is what drove him over the edge it's obvious he wasn't much longer for the world anyway. The issue here is that two people videotaped someone in a compromising position without his consent and broadcast it on the Internet because they thought it was "funny". That's not acceptable. That's not decent. And apparently now there are a whole Hell of a lot of people in our society who don't understand why that's important.

please, please, please stop trying to make these kids out to be some kind of rabid homophobic monsters. When you continually exaggerate crap like this, it makes it much harder for people to take it seriously when something really racist/bigotted/etc happens.

I really don't give a damn about homophobia or bigotry in general. I'm opposed to them, in principle, but I don't really get bent out of shape over it. This is about decency.

Its just a freaking prank. And had it been on a heterosexual and his girlfriend, this wouldn't even be an issue, and we wouldn't have forum members calling for the decapitation of the two involved like a bunch of mouth frothing trolls.

Decapitation's probably pushing it a little. No sense wasting two more lives, especially since these two are probably worth something. I'm just saying that they should be ashamed, and if they're not ashamed on their own we need to make them ashamed, and we need to do it publicly enough that everyone else gets the point.
 
Families cast out children for partying too much, marrying the wrong person, piercings, being bad in school. There are strong kids and there are weak kids. There are kids with emotional problems and there are kids with self esteem issues.

Not every single homosexual kills themselves because they were bullied or cast out. Thats a lazy and general assumption. Homosexuals are just as diverse as any other group. They have weak and strong members, emotional and non emotional, caring and uncaring people.

Wow, you are clueless. Let's look at some statistics.

* In the United States, more than 34,000 people die by suicide each year (2007 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]).

* Of all American teens who die by their own hand, 30 percent are LGBTQ.

* Suicide is the third leading cause of death among 15- to 24-year-olds, accounting for over 12 percent of deaths in this age group; only accidents and homicide occur more frequently (2006 National Adolescent Health Information).

* Suicide is the second leading cause of death on college campuses (2008 CDC).

* For every completed suicide by a young person, it is estimated that 100 to 200 attempts are made (2003 Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance Survey).

* Lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth are up to four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers (Massachusetts 2007 Youth Risk Survey).

* LGB youth who come from highly rejecting families are more than eight times as likely to have attempted suicide than LGB peers who reported no or low levels of family rejection (Ryan C, Huebner D, et al., Pediatrics 123(1): 346-52).

* Almost 85 percent of LGBTQ teenagers are harassed in high school because of their sexual orientation, with 61 percent of gay youth reporting that they felt unsafe in school and 30 percent staying home to avoid bullying (2009 Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network survey).
 
* Almost 85 percent of LGBTQ teenagers are harassed in high school because of their sexual orientation, with 61 percent of gay youth reporting that they felt unsafe in school and 30 percent staying home to avoid bullying (2009 Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network survey).

What percentage of overall high school students are harassed about something? I'd say 100%. Being gay is no different than being fat, having a big nose, wearing ugly clothes, being poor, etc.

High school kids harass each other. OMG! Someone phone the news.
 
What percentage of overall high school students are harassed about something? I'd say 100%. Being gay is no different than being fat, having a big nose, wearing ugly clothes, being poor, etc.

Maybe if I'd had caffeine first I wouldn't be in shock right now.
 
i hope the kids who did this actaully serve jail time for 5 years. the ****s.

Great idea.....No doubt that will totally ruin a couple more young lives, not to mention their families....That will really even up the score and make things right, eh "liblady"....Kneejerk reactions from both sides of the political landscape are what have turned the USA from the land of the free, to the land of the imprisoned....The US already has more people locked up than any other country on earth, by far....Your reaction is the same kind of judgmentalism that made these two kids think it would be funny to out this kid in such a cruel manner....

Cheers
 
This thread should be closed. Nobody is making any sense anymore.
 
Maybe if I'd had caffeine first I wouldn't be in shock right now.

I have a kid in middle school and one in high school, and my house is FULL of their friends most weekends. I'm pretty in touch with what they deal with daily, and the fact is that high school and middle school students harass the crap out of each other all the time, for a wide range of things.

One of my daughter's friends was talking this weekend about being harassed for being on the football team. Apparently, some of his classmates assume he's stupid because he's kind of a jock.

Teenagers look for things to harass each other about, frankly. I know that being GLBT is difficult, but just being a teenager is difficult.

The statistics about 85% of GLBT teenagers being harassed is meaningless without context.
 
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Teenagers look for things to harass each other about, frankly. I know that being GLBT is difficult, but just being a teenager is difficult.

Oh good. So you understand that it would then be twice as bad for a teenaged GLBT?
 
Oh good. So you understand that it would then be twice as bad for a teenaged GLBT?

why? what makes GLBT so "special"? are they just more "sensitive" than straight kids?
 
Egads there is a lot of penalties in that video....delay of game offsides bad dancing.
 
Do you say the same of people who join the military? Natural selection removing people stupid enough to join the military from the gene pool? I doubt you do. I bet you think people who join the military and get killed are some sort of heroes and they are somehow exempt from the same "Darwinism" you obviously don't understand.



Wait, are you seriously comparing those willing to serve thier country, especually in a time of war in harms way, with this bridge jumper? Seriously?
 
The sort of creepy things right-wingers say about Darwinism make me wonder if they really are Nazis in disguise.




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The statistics about 85% of GLBT teenagers being harassed is meaningless without context.

61 percent of gay youth reporting that they felt unsafe in school and 30 percent staying home to avoid bullying isn't context?
 
61 percent of gay youth reporting that they felt unsafe in school and 30 percent staying home to avoid bullying isn't context?

I have known many kids that felt unsafe in school and/or stayed home to avoid bullying... and surprise, surprise...none of them were gay.


point is, the harrassment and bullying suffered by GLBT is not "unique". most kids in school suffer abuse from their peers for one reason or another.
 
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