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Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

It was indeed a selfish act and it was his choice. However, those bullies contributed to his misery and hopefully will live to feel guilty.

I'm sure they're suffering more than we can imagine, and they will for a long, long time, along with their families.
 
I love how everyone assumes that the other two kids in this story are "bullies". Why are so many people so eager to paint these two kids as vicious, raving homophobes? Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt? Isn't it just as likley that this was simply a prank and the "victim" just happened to be a mentally unstable dude who decided to kill himself?
 
I love how everyone assumes that the other two kids in this story are "bullies". Why are so many people so eager to paint these two kids as vicious, raving homophobes? Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt? Isn't it just as likley that this was simply a prank and the "victim" just happened to be a mentally unstable dude who decided to kill himself?

This isn't a prank, its perverted and wrong. If they weren't bullies chances are they wouldn't have released the footage for the world to see.
 
This isn't a prank, its perverted and wrong. If they weren't bullies chances are they wouldn't have released the footage for the world to see.

there was no "footage" the guy turned on a webcam and sent the feed to some people's twitter accounts. Not everyone who does something stupid is a ...GASP..."bully"

It was a stupid prank. what is perverted and wrong is the fact that this kid was so ashamed of what he was doing that he killed himself when other people saw him doing it.
 
I think his roommate just felt he was doing a harmless prank and nothing more. Bad things and embarrassing things happen to homosexuals for all sorts of reasons. Not the idiot liberal pc retarded notion that these things can only happen to gays because of hatred of homosexuality. The kid was weak willed, which is why he committed suicide. If it was not embarrassment it would have been something else that sent that kid over the edge.Like a lot of other people I do not have any sympathy for people who commit suicide, especially for the idiot school kids who have it better than most of the people on the planet. I kind of think we should drop these kids off in a war torn 3rd world country for a couple of years to change their perspective on the value of life and suicide.

That said they should serve some time for violating that kids privacy. And this should only be treated as an invasion of privacy case not a some poor weak willed dumbass committed suicide because of this case.

Look at the series jackass? I mean, that, or any other prankster type show, punked, college pranks etc..

Look, it was a prank gone bad, that's it and that's all. Proving malice in this case is an uphill jorney, and so too is proving neglegence.

If I were the prosecuter I would be praying this all went away.


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Shame the kid's dead. But I agree with Oscar. This isn't "bullying", this is a typical bull**** college prank that got way out of hand.

That said, these two need to be made a bloody example of so that other "kids" get the message that this is not acceptable.
 
there was no "footage" the guy turned on a webcam and sent the feed to some people's twitter accounts. Not everyone who does something stupid is a ...GASP..."bully"

It was a stupid prank. what is perverted and wrong is the fact that this kid was so ashamed of what he was doing that he killed himself when other people saw him doing it.

I'm telling you this: If it wasn't this prank, it would have been something else that made him off himself. The kid was disturbed emotionally and/or mentally which is what, ultimately, led to his actions.

Clearly his being seen kissing a guy on the internet wasn't that big of a deal because he had been streaming himself naked on that other website. He wasn't closeted or particularly discreet and there is no indication that he was actually being bullied. He was going to do this at some point anyway unless there was the intervention of some professional help. If it wasn't over being butthurt about this prank, it would have been over a bad grade, a poor performance at a recital, some dude breaking up with him...something.

This boils down to mental issues in the kid, not the prank that supposedly set him off.
 
This boils down to mental issues in the kid, not the prank that supposedly set him off.

exacta-mundo. and trying to demonize the other two kids won't help anything. college kids do stupid things, that's one of the main reason for going to college instead of straight into "real life" it gives you 4 more years to get all the "stupid" out of your system.
 
I'm telling you this: If it wasn't this prank, it would have been something else that made him off himself. The kid was disturbed emotionally and/or mentally which is what, ultimately, led to his actions.

Clearly his being seen kissing a guy on the internet wasn't that big of a deal because he had been streaming himself naked on that other website. He wasn't closeted or particularly discreet and there is no indication that he was actually being bullied. He was going to do this at some point anyway unless there was the intervention of some professional help. If it wasn't over being butthurt about this prank, it would have been over a bad grade, a poor performance at a recital, some dude breaking up with him...something.

This boils down to mental issues in the kid, not the prank that supposedly set him off.

I would tend to agree with this post. In the case of family members who are dealing with someone who is chronically depressed and commits suicide, there is a need to find a CAUSE besides their child's mental illness. Someone must have MADE THEM do it. In a lot of cases, the child has been dealing with mental health problems for years, and the parents did nothing to address it. I've always referred to this as "not my kid" syndrome. We saw the same with parents of gang members who denied their child's criminal/gang affiliation. "My kid wouldn't do that," the parents say. "Someone must have influenced them or made them do it."

My daughter has a really good friend who has been involved in multiple acts of self-harming stupidity over the past 4 years. Most recently, she was dating a guy long-distance and cutting herself at his urging. When they broke up, he posted the pictures of her cutting and her naked body to 4-chan. A lot of the kids at her high school saw them, and they were circulated around the school. The parents and local law enforcement got involved...

And yet, when she asked to see a therapist, they told her that she didn't need counseling, because she is fine. She just needs to toughen up and get some boundaries, according to her father. :sigh:

In my opinion, they just don't want to come to grips with the fact that their daughter has some serious mental health issues. I'm at the point where I don't even know what to do. I'm almost ready to take her to counseling and pay for it myself, but I think that violates some kind of law in Florida.
 
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Poor kid. He was obviously fragile to begin with. I read it wasn't bigotry at all that motivated the other two kids, they thought it was just a prank. What a world our kids are growing up in. They don't seem to realize how damaging it can be to play around with other people's privacy and think nothing of putting it out there for all the world to see.

You read that it wasn't bigotry? I would expect the two people who participated in this prank to claim, "Oh, it had NOTHING to do with the fact that he was gay." Shame on them.
 
I would tend to agree with this post. In the case of family members who are dealing with someone who is chronically depressed and commits suicide, there is a need to find a CAUSE besides their child's mental illness. Someone must have MADE THEM do it. In a lot of cases, the child has been dealing with mental health problems for years, and the parents did nothing to address it.

To be fair the parents might honestly not have known. I was able to hide my depression from my parents for years. It wasn't until my best friend committed suicide and I had to deal with that and the fact his suicide letter was written to only me that my parents realized my mental state.
 
You read that it wasn't bigotry? I would expect the two people who participated in this prank to claim, "Oh, it had NOTHING to do with the fact that he was gay." Shame on them.

maybe it had something do to with the fact that he was the guy's roommate and therefore a target of opportunity? It's not like they broke into a gay guy's room and set up a hidden camera.

give it a ****ing rest already. the "homophobic bully" card is played out.
 
You read that it wasn't bigotry? I would expect the two people who participated in this prank to claim, "Oh, it had NOTHING to do with the fact that he was gay." Shame on them.

In all fairness, I know quite a few high school and college students who would videotape a straight couple having sex and post it online, thinking it would be funny.
 
Anyone who's seen American Pie knows that great humor can be derived from secretly videotaping nerds trying to have sex. And this is just what that is - a nerd trying to have sex. Granted, it was in the butt, but the premise is still the same.

To identify this as a hate crime is convenient ignorance. If a black man came up to your wife and tried to grope her, forcing you to retaliate, is it a hate crime? Is it racially motivated?

Nope.
 
exacta-mundo. and trying to demonize the other two kids won't help anything. college kids do stupid things, that's one of the main reason for going to college instead of straight into "real life" it gives you 4 more years to get all the "stupid" out of your system.

College "kids" are full grown adults who have already had two decades of childhood to "get the 'stupid' out of their systems'. Excusing their behavior is far, far worse than "demonizing" them for doing something that any right-thinking adult should be able to recognize is cruel, pointless and wholly unacceptable.

In all fairness, I know quite a few high school and college students who would videotape a straight couple having sex and post it online, thinking it would be funny.

Then they could do with a taste of the lash, themselves.
 
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College "kids" are full grown adults who have already had two decades of childhood to "get the 'stupid' out of their systems'. Excusing their behavior is far, far worse than "demonizing" them for doing something that any right-thinking adult should be able to recognize is cruel, pointless and wholly unacceptable.



Then they could do with a taste of the lash, themselves.

have you met many 18-19 year olds that acted like "full grown adults"? I haven't, at least not in the last 20 years. and in far too many cases, mommy and daddy have been too busy protecting their fragile precious little babies that they haven't allowed them to be stupid. so they get to college and finally out from under the thumb and they go ape-**** crazy
 
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have you met many 18-19 year olds that acted like "full grown adults"? I haven't, at least not in the last 20 years. and in far too many cases, mommy and daddy have been too busy protecting their fragile precious little babies that they haven't allowed them to be stupid. so they get to college and finally out from under the thumb and they go ape-**** crazy

Oh, so they're the real victims here?
 
That's not what he said. Please don't make appeals to the absurd.

If it were so easy for people not to make appeals to the absurd, they'd already be using rational arguments.

Also, this seems appropriate here:

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Some people will feel better if we can burn someone in effigy. Or, if that's insufficient, for reals.
 
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Remember something. Though these "kids" might be legal adults at 18-19, their brains are still not fully developed... something that does not occur until about age 23-25 for most folks. The parts that control impulsivity, judgement, and emotional control are just not completely there. This does not mean that people that age are not responsible for their actions, but it does mean that they will react differently than those who are a bit older.

Regardless, what these two did was the tip of the iceberg. No way they are responsible for Tyler's suicide.
 
Oh, so they're the real victims here?

why does there have to be a "victim"? there is no evidence of any kind that these two specifically targeted this guy because he was gay. would all you bleeding hearts be screaming and crying if this had been a straight guy doing a girl and then committed suicide because people saw he had a tiny willy?

please, please, please stop trying to make these kids out to be some kind of rabid homophobic monsters. When you continually exaggerate crap like this, it makes it much harder for people to take it seriously when something really racist/bigotted/etc happens.
 
Isn't that essentially the standard for Felony Murder, though?


TED,
Who thought that if you committed a (violent?) felony, and anybody died in the midst of that crime, you were culpable for their death(s).

What is violent about posting still life with a few moments of dudes kissing on the internet again?
 
Remember something. Though these "kids" might be legal adults at 18-19, their brains are still not fully developed... something that does not occur until about age 23-25 for most folks. The parts that control impulsivity, judgement, and emotional control are just not completely there. This does not mean that people that age are not responsible for their actions, but it does mean that they will react differently than those who are a bit older.

Regardless, what these two did was the tip of the iceberg. No way they are responsible for Tyler's suicide.


that's why the legal age for drinking is 21....
 
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