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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    Yeah I seriously can't see this as the reason of his suicide. I mean heck they guy is even considering keeping him as a roommate after the first offence and then he is just pissed after the second. Not to mention he clearly states that nothing pornographic went out on the web, he gets rid of the camera and then he goes and has sex. As far as I can tell his roommate was just being a jerk, the kid set things in motion to get it taken care of. And he seems happy at the end of his post. I seriously can't see this as the reason for his suicide. And I can't see his roommates getting anything more then a fine and a slap on the wrist.
    I think something else worked him up. Most likely it was something the RA or college said to him.

    I agree with the article. He should have been removed from the room immediately. The college is liable.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    I'll defend him to a point. I wouldn't go so far as to say I don't have sympathy for them, but after someone commits suicide I just see them as a waste of time. I can sympathize and even empathize with them. Depression runs in my family, currently half of my immediate family is on meds for it right now and I have bouts of depression and have often been so depressed that suicide started seeming like a legitimate answer. But in my eyes if you take that final leap and do the deed then you just wasted your life and you wasted a little bit of everyone else's life that was connected to you, cause now everyone has to pick up your broken pieces basically. So in that respect I don't have sympathy for them.
    I see it differently. My best friend killed himself in February. I don't see his life as a waste. He was a great friend who helped me out in a lot of situations, but I would never see his time with me as a waste. Depression also runs deep in my family as well so like you I can sympathize and empathize with them. But I would never see it as a waste of a life.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I agree with that 100%, until it comes time to protect them from their own stupidity; which is impossible.
    Now that I have "young adult" children, I'm a bit conflicted on this.
    Half the time I believe that adolescence is a social construct and that people actually become adults around or shortly after puberty and deserve adult rights and responsibilities.
    The other half the time, I wish there was some special oversight and protection for young adults until, oh, about age 24. I wish we could sort of phase them into adulthood- into adult rights, responsibilities, and consequences- less abruptly.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think something else worked him up. Most likely it was something the RA or college said to him.

    I agree with the article. He should have been removed from the room immediately. The college is liable.
    This seems extremely dubious. He reported it to the RA in the early hours of 9/22. When asked to describe how the RA responded, he said this:

    he seemed to take it seriously...
    he asked me to email him a written paragraph about what exactly happened...
    I emailed it to him, and to two people above him....
    He killed himself less than 24 hours later and before any further spying incidents happened. Given the information we have available, I can't imagine how the school would be at fault for this or what it should have done differently.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Poor kid. He was obviously fragile to begin with. I read it wasn't bigotry at all that motivated the other two kids, they thought it was just a prank. What a world our kids are growing up in. They don't seem to realize how damaging it can be to play around with other people's privacy and think nothing of putting it out there for all the world to see.
    I blame the same crappy parenting that is leading to the decline in the education system and tragic parents on shows like Supernanny or that I witnessed firsthand at parks when out pl;aying with my kids. Overall, in the USA at least, Parents Suck Dick.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This seems extremely dubious. He reported it to the RA in the early hours of 9/22. When asked to describe how the RA responded, he said this:



    He killed himself less than 24 hours later and before any further spying incidents happened. Given the information we have available, I can't imagine how the school would be at fault for this or what it should have done differently.
    Go back and read it again. He posted this on the 21st.

    I ran to the nearest RA and set this thing in motion…..
    we’ll see what happens……
    If this is true, he should have been out of that room before the 22nd. It seems like the RA did not take is seriously and asked him to send him an e-mail before he took it any further.

    Edit: According to the time stamp on the post: "September 22nd, 2010, 03:38 AM". That is when he posted it, not necessarily when he reported to the RA.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I blame the same crappy parenting that is leading to the decline in the education system and tragic parents on shows like Supernanny or that I witnessed firsthand at parks when out pl;aying with my kids. Overall, in the USA at least, Parents Suck Dick.
    Yeah, looking at the boy's history, it's obvious "crappy parenting" is to blame.
    Someone ought to prosecute the parents of the dead kid.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I see it differently. My best friend killed himself in February. I don't see his life as a waste. He was a great friend who helped me out in a lot of situations, but I would never see his time with me as a waste. Depression also runs deep in my family as well so like you I can sympathize and empathize with them. But I would never see it as a waste of a life.
    Okay not as a waste of life, but as a waste of potential then. People commit suicide and they throw it all away and leave everyone around them with the pieces. It destroys them and then it can also destroy those that knew them. It's just such a waste of potential, and I just can't stand that someone would do that.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Now that I have "young adult" children, I'm a bit conflicted on this.
    Half the time I believe that adolescence is a social construct and that people actually become adults around or shortly after puberty and deserve adult rights and responsibilities.
    The other half the time, I wish there was some special oversight and protection for young adults until, oh, about age 24. I wish we could sort of phase them into adulthood- into adult rights, responsibilities, and consequences- less abruptly.
    Kids enter into adulthood shortly after puberty and should be treated as adults as far as being respected and being made responsible for their actions, so as to teach them how to respect others and deal with responsibility, but they shouldn't be given actual adult responsibilities until much later in life. I've always believed that if you want teenagers to act like adults you must treat them like adults, but you can't expect them to actually be adults until they have received years of training. That, "special oversight and protection", is called parenthood, i.e. training and takes place during the period between puberty and their graduation from high school.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This seems extremely dubious. He reported it to the RA in the early hours of 9/22. When asked to describe how the RA responded, he said this:



    He killed himself less than 24 hours later and before any further spying incidents happened. Given the information we have available, I can't imagine how the school would be at fault for this or what it should have done differently.
    What's an RA?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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