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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    I was hoping not see this story end up on this forum. I had contact with this individual on another forum before he committed suicide. I was blown away when I read the story in the news and returned to the forum to corroborate that it was the same individual. Since then, his thread has been closed and the site owner was informed so he could report the thread's contents to the police.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have zero sympathy for anyone that takes their own life. Suicide is the most selfish and weak minded reaction there is.
    There is nothing selfish about the inability to cope with suffering. Human beings are not machines and sometimes we reach a point where our pain, whether it is physical or emotional, makes life seem meaningless. I imagine you would not fault someone who was terminally ill and who had suffered months of agonizing pain for committing suicide but you are ready to quickly call someone weak and selfish if they can't cope with their emotional pain. If you ever end up in either position, you may have a greater sympathy and compassion for the human condition.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    I have been there... coming to terms with one's own sexuality and then trying to seek a safe place and person to express it with can be incredibly stressful and an emotional rollercoaster. It's hard enough going to college, being away from your family for the first time, and trying to form connections as a straight person; but when haters come along and bait you into a prank that can ruin your life and you lack the life skills or experience to know that it really sucks but it's not the end of the world, I can see how some young gays would easily be pushed over the edge.

    In my case, I was lucky to find compassionate and safe peers in the sea of uncaring, hateful assholes and anchor myself to them with trust. This guy was not so lucky. I have nothing but utter contempt for those that did this. I wish I could have been there when the guy was wanting to die, and just took him away from that situation; I also wish I could have violently subdued the homophobic assholes who did this and thought it was a good idea.

    The very least they deserve is a criminal record that will ruin their functional working lives and education, but I wish more were possible.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I knew a kid in college that was pretty much an asswipe. party crasher who would show up and get drunk off your alcohol and never chip in kinda guy. He passed out in a chair at this one party and while he was out, a couple of the guys whipped out their junk and laid it on his cheeks and another guy took a picture. turned it into a flyer and posted it all over campus. so, yes, pranks like this do happen, more often than you would like to believe
    yeah there was guy in my law school who was a gay basher. NOt a malicious one -he was just a good Irish Catholic Boy who thought Homosexuality was a sin. Well one night a bunch of us were partying late and this guy called and said his car had broken down and could we give him a lift from town back to campus. So the guy who answered the phone (it was 2 AM) asked where he was and he mentioned it was the local "gay bar" (the only place open late enough for him to find a phone in the town). so we got into a car and one guy grabbed a camera and told "Dave" that we would honk when we got there. When we did he came out and "tom" took the picture. A couple days later, on the bulletin board at school there was this picture of "Dave" coming out of the gay bar with the caption "DAVE COMES OUT OF THE CLOSET.

    He actually thought it was funny but we knew this guy well enough to know it wasn't going to cause him any issues. Now we had a couple guys that were in the closet and we'd never do something to one of them



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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Well unfortunately we still have Republicans in the U.S.A. today which means being a homosexual is a terrible thing to half the country.
    This may shock you but some conservative types work in the crisis/suicide intervention field and respond to calls daily (and yes...calls from suicidal people that happen to be homosexual) and often put their lives on the line in incredbly stressful and even very dangerous situations trying to help those people...and their sexuality doesnt matter even a little bit.

    Not sure which respondent here is the most repugnant...those that have no empathy for the individual (and I'm guessing there may have been greater stresses on the young man than this incident) or this one...but...hey...at least you are in the running...

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This kid was weak. Natural selection removed him from the gene pool. If he hadn't offed himself over this deal, he would have come up with another reason to off himself. Is that what you mean? Turning irrational behavior into rational thought?
    The kid MAY have had a fair amount of other issues to deal with. You might be amazed at 'the last straw' for some people...people that have been through extraordinary painful events only to finally lose it by something relatively minor. Soldiers are not immune...Ive worked with individuals that survived multiple deployments to combat environments and then suffered a complete break when a pet died.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    There is nothing selfish about the inability to cope with suffering. Human beings are not machines and sometimes we reach a point where our pain, whether it is physical or emotional, makes life seem meaningless. I imagine you would not fault someone who was terminally ill and who had suffered months of agonizing pain for committing suicide but you are ready to quickly call someone weak and selfish if they can't cope with their emotional pain. If you ever end up in either position, you may have a greater sympathy and compassion for the human condition.
    There's a huge difference between not being able to cope with suffering, shrinking in a corner, rocking to-n-fro, crying and offing one's self.

    I've had plenty of emotional pain in my life. I was a shy kid that was subjected to public humiliation as a teenager; until I decided to put my fist through a dude's face, one day. That was the first epiphany of my life and certainly not my last.

    Yeah, life sucks ass, it's hard, sometimes we feel like giving up; but the one thing that we're all born with, is the natural instinct to survive. Those who aren't born with that instinct, or whom that instinct isn't strong enough, are naturally selected to be deleted from the species. You do believe in Darwinism, natural selection and evolution. Right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The kid MAY have had a fair amount of other issues to deal with. You might be amazed at 'the last straw' for some people...people that have been through extraordinary painful events only to finally lose it by something relatively minor. Soldiers are not immune...Ive worked with individuals that survived multiple deployments to combat environments and then suffered a complete break when a pet died.
    oh yeah, I know all about that, "last straw". It's why, when I was a shy little 9th grader, who was the target of plenty of humiliation, got pissed the **** off and kicked the dog **** out of a dude half again my size in my English I class back in 1984.

    Ya see, had this been me; instead of offing myself and you all starting a thread about me offing myself, the thread title would have read: College Freshman Kicks the Ever-Living-**** out of two college class mates because they posted a video of him having sex, on Youtube.

    Why couldn't he go to his parents? If one of my kids came to me with something like this and said, "dad! Look what they did to me!", I would be ****ing these two kids up.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    People's reactions make no sense.
    It is the reactions that display nothing but cold contempt served up without even the tiniest shred of human decency that make no sense.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    It is the reactions that display nothing but cold contempt served up without even the tiniest shred of human decency that make no sense.
    What about the feeling of this cat's loved ones? Did he think about their feelings? Or, did he just take his own **** into consideration? That's why I say that suicide is a selfish act.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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