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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

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    Because they are dying by their own hands at far higher numbers than their heterosexual counterparts.
    and whose fault is that? you don't see fat kids offing themselves in droves. "wah, wah, wah....someone called me a faggot. I think I'll go hang myself"
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

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    and whose fault is that? you don't see fat kids offing themselves in droves. "wah, wah, wah....someone called me a faggot. I think I'll go hang myself"
    Interesting. We are talking about children ending their own lives and this is the capacity for empathy that you demonstrate. Truly, this must be the depth of Christian compassion that I hear social conservatives spouting about all the time.

    Yes, LGBT teens are 2-3 times more likely to commit suicide. That is the result of lacking the support structures available to other groups. Weight and pimples are universal problems among teens and are handled openly but homosexuality is considered a taboo topic that most schools won't touch. With nowhere to turn, gay teens may often feel out of options, especially if their own families turn on them.

    Adolescent Sexual Orientation and Suicide Risk: Evidence From a National Study -- Russell and Joyner 91 (8): 1276 -- American Journal of Public Health

    Oscar, with that I am done speaking with you on this topic. I can't say that anyone who demonstrates so little value for human life is worth debating.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Interesting. We are talking about children ending their own lives and this is the capacity for empathy that you demonstrate. Truly, this must be the depth of Christian compassion that I hear social conservatives spouting about all the time.
    irrelevent partisan crappola


    Yes, LGBT teens are 2-3 times more likely to commit suicide. That is the result of lacking the support structures available to other groups. Weight and pimples are universal problems among teens and are handled openly but homosexuality is considered a taboo topic that most schools won't touch. With nowhere to turn, gay teens may often feel out of options, especially if their own families turn on them.
    bullcrap. "most schools" these days are teaching gay acceptance in sex ed classes. this is a bull**** arguement.



    Oscar, with that I am done speaking with you on this topic. I can't say that anyone who demonstrates so little value for human life is worth debating.
    fine by me, your lack of judgement is mind boggling anyway. How you arrived at your delusion that I have little value for human life is an enigma. I value all human life equally.

    I'm sorry if it twists your panties that I don't place "SPECIAL" value on the lives of gay teens.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Please, show me some statistics that support your views on this. I'm only hearing antecdotal evidence from you. It shouldn't be hard to find studies that show 30% of all teenagers staying home to avoid bullying or 61% of all teenagers feeling unsafe in school.
    Given that you're making the claim, it's really your obligation to prove that gay/lesbian students experience worse bullying than their peers. However, since I'm good at research:

    62% of Students Report Being Bullied - News - Campus Safety Magazine

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    FRIDAY, April 13 (HealthDay News) -- Nine out of 10 elementary school kids have been subjected to physical or psychological bullying by their peers, while six in 10 have been bullies themselves, according to a new study.

    "The results show that even going down to young ages, we have very high levels of bullying and victimization," said study lead author Dr. Thomas P. Tarshis, who conducted the research while with the division of child and adolescent psychiatry at Stanford University Medical Center.
    Self report data on bullying has many discrepancies, however, and percents of students reporting that they've been bullied range from 25% up to over 90%.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and whose fault is that? you don't see fat kids offing themselves in droves. "wah, wah, wah....someone called me a faggot. I think I'll go hang myself"
    ORLY?

    BBC NEWS | UK | Wales | 'Tell on bullies' - grieving parents

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Given that you're making the claim
    Bull****. You were the one making the claim.

    Seriously? Has bullying become that rampant a problem in our schools? That is sad. I would never have suspected it was to that extent.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Bull****. You were the one making the claim.
    Who posted the original data? i simply stated that the data on gays/lesbians being bullied lacked context, and that the majority of teenagers are bullied in some form or another.

    Seriously? Has bullying become that rampant a problem in our schools? That is sad. I would never have suspected it was to that extent.
    Become? I'd suggest that bullying has ALWAYS been an issue in schools. It's going to be an issue in any social structure comprised primarily of adolescents, in particular. It's not like it's new.

    It's just the flavor of the month right now for handwringing. It probably sounds callous for me to say that, but we have such short attention spans. In the 90s, it was gangs, and then Columbine. In the early 00s, it was online predators. Now, it's bullying of gays/lesbians.

    There always has to be hoopla about some social problem that is more serious now than at any time in the past, even though this hysteria is rarely based upon accurate evidence.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    the majority of teenagers are bullied in some form or another.
    That would be the claim I asked you to verify. I provided stats to back up my claim.

    Become? I'd suggest that bullying has ALWAYS been an issue in schools. It's going to be an issue in any social structure comprised primarily of adolescents, in particular. It's not like it's new.
    I went to a high school where bullying was not tolerated. It is very difficult for me to imagine 3 out of 5 kids being bullied and nobody caring.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

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    i think the operative phrase was "in droves"
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That would be the claim I asked you to verify. I provided stats to back up my claim.
    And, as stated, your statistics lacked context.

    I went to a high school where bullying was not tolerated. It is very difficult for me to imagine 3 out of 5 kids being bullied and nobody caring.
    I'm guessing you went to a private school where bullies could be ejected. Bullying is the norm for most teenagers in America.

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