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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

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    Remember something. Though these "kids" might be legal adults at 18-19, their brains are still not fully developed... something that does not occur until about age 23-25 for most folks. The parts that control impulsivity, judgement, and emotional control are just not completely there. This does not mean that people that age are not responsible for their actions, but it does mean that they will react differently than those who are a bit older.

    Regardless, what these two did was the tip of the iceberg. No way they are responsible for Tyler's suicide.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

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    Oh, so they're the real victims here?
    why does there have to be a "victim"? there is no evidence of any kind that these two specifically targeted this guy because he was gay. would all you bleeding hearts be screaming and crying if this had been a straight guy doing a girl and then committed suicide because people saw he had a tiny willy?

    please, please, please stop trying to make these kids out to be some kind of rabid homophobic monsters. When you continually exaggerate crap like this, it makes it much harder for people to take it seriously when something really racist/bigotted/etc happens.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Isn't that essentially the standard for Felony Murder, though?


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    Who thought that if you committed a (violent?) felony, and anybody died in the midst of that crime, you were culpable for their death(s).
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Remember something. Though these "kids" might be legal adults at 18-19, their brains are still not fully developed... something that does not occur until about age 23-25 for most folks. The parts that control impulsivity, judgement, and emotional control are just not completely there. This does not mean that people that age are not responsible for their actions, but it does mean that they will react differently than those who are a bit older.

    Regardless, what these two did was the tip of the iceberg. No way they are responsible for Tyler's suicide.

    that's why the legal age for drinking is 21....
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I love how everyone assumes that the other two kids in this story are "bullies". Why are so many people so eager to paint these two kids as vicious, raving homophobes? Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt? Isn't it just as likley that this was simply a prank and the "victim" just happened to be a mentally unstable dude who decided to kill himself?
    Thanks.

    Someone else who sees this the same way I do.

    Its just a freaking prank. And had it been on a heterosexual and his girlfriend, this wouldn't even be an issue, and we wouldn't have forum members calling for the decapitation of the two involved like a bunch of mouth frothing trolls.
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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    have you met many 18-19 year olds that acted like "full grown adults"? I haven't, at least not in the last 20 years.
    I have. Plenty of them. They had better raising than these ones did. My parents may not have done much right with me, but at least they taught me that bull**** doesn't fly.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    why does there have to be a "victim"?
    There's a victim because there's a damn victim.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    there is no evidence of any kind that these two specifically targeted this guy because he was gay. would all you bleeding hearts be screaming and crying if this had been a straight guy doing a girl and then committed suicide because people saw he had a tiny willy?
    Yeah, I would be. Gay's got nothing to do with it. Hell, for that matter, suicide's got nothing to do with it-- because if this is what drove him over the edge it's obvious he wasn't much longer for the world anyway. The issue here is that two people videotaped someone in a compromising position without his consent and broadcast it on the Internet because they thought it was "funny". That's not acceptable. That's not decent. And apparently now there are a whole Hell of a lot of people in our society who don't understand why that's important.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    please, please, please stop trying to make these kids out to be some kind of rabid homophobic monsters. When you continually exaggerate crap like this, it makes it much harder for people to take it seriously when something really racist/bigotted/etc happens.
    I really don't give a damn about homophobia or bigotry in general. I'm opposed to them, in principle, but I don't really get bent out of shape over it. This is about decency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Its just a freaking prank. And had it been on a heterosexual and his girlfriend, this wouldn't even be an issue, and we wouldn't have forum members calling for the decapitation of the two involved like a bunch of mouth frothing trolls.
    Decapitation's probably pushing it a little. No sense wasting two more lives, especially since these two are probably worth something. I'm just saying that they should be ashamed, and if they're not ashamed on their own we need to make them ashamed, and we need to do it publicly enough that everyone else gets the point.

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Families cast out children for partying too much, marrying the wrong person, piercings, being bad in school. There are strong kids and there are weak kids. There are kids with emotional problems and there are kids with self esteem issues.

    Not every single homosexual kills themselves because they were bullied or cast out. Thats a lazy and general assumption. Homosexuals are just as diverse as any other group. They have weak and strong members, emotional and non emotional, caring and uncaring people.
    Wow, you are clueless. Let's look at some statistics.

    * In the United States, more than 34,000 people die by suicide each year (2007 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC]).

    * Of all American teens who die by their own hand, 30 percent are LGBTQ.

    * Suicide is the third leading cause of death among 15- to 24-year-olds, accounting for over 12 percent of deaths in this age group; only accidents and homicide occur more frequently (2006 National Adolescent Health Information).

    * Suicide is the second leading cause of death on college campuses (2008 CDC).

    * For every completed suicide by a young person, it is estimated that 100 to 200 attempts are made (2003 Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance Survey).

    * Lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth are up to four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers (Massachusetts 2007 Youth Risk Survey).

    * LGB youth who come from highly rejecting families are more than eight times as likely to have attempted suicide than LGB peers who reported no or low levels of family rejection (Ryan C, Huebner D, et al., Pediatrics 123(1): 346-52).

    * Almost 85 percent of LGBTQ teenagers are harassed in high school because of their sexual orientation, with 61 percent of gay youth reporting that they felt unsafe in school and 30 percent staying home to avoid bullying (2009 Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network survey).

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    Re: Student kills himself after gay sex footage put online

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    * Almost 85 percent of LGBTQ teenagers are harassed in high school because of their sexual orientation, with 61 percent of gay youth reporting that they felt unsafe in school and 30 percent staying home to avoid bullying (2009 Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network survey).
    What percentage of overall high school students are harassed about something? I'd say 100%. Being gay is no different than being fat, having a big nose, wearing ugly clothes, being poor, etc.

    High school kids harass each other. OMG! Someone phone the news.

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