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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Verify that the documents were real.
    How? E-Verify wasn't available at the time the maid was hired. The way to verify it at the time of the hire was with a SSN card and an I9. The maid's documents even fooled the state of California into giving her a drivers license. You think Whitman had access to more information then the state of California?


    Which is a cop out if the law says that employers do not have to verify if the documents were real.
    It's not a cop-out, there was no way to verify them back then. E-verify was only a pilot program at the time and was availble in a very limited number of states. California not being one.


    You are telling me that 9 years ago an employment agency and employers had no way of verifying if any documents were real?
    Yes, the I-9, driver's license and SSn card should have been sufficient proof. Now-a-days they have e-verify in which the employment agency can plug the I9 information into the system and see what comes back.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That is what you'd expect to pay for somebody to come and simply clean your house with nothing else included. That's what a maid is in California. This lady was more of a butler. Ran errands, picked up mail, did cooking etc.
    So, a full time maid, according to the link you provided makes $51k or in Cali or $24.50 / hour.

    Seems like the maid was paid fairly to me. Or are you really suggesting that a part time maid should make $51k / year?

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Irrelevant. answer the question. What is so generous about paying $23 an hour in California? You act like Whitman was some sort of patron saint. She's a billionaire who was paying what is essentially the bare minimum for somebody who cooks, cleans and takes care of your kids. End of story. Thanks for playing.
    It was reported that she worked 15 hours a week and not 24 hours a day like you said.

    $23.00 per hour is a very good wage to clean somebodys house and then go home.

    I challenge you to find a job anywhere that pays that plus benefits for that kind of work.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Gretta absolutely destroys Gloria Allred last night on her show. You really gotta see this:

    Video: Greta vs Gloria Hot Air
    Yes that was good.

    Gloria Alred is taking a beating for her part in this.

    Her client is guilty of all kinds of crimes and should end up in jail and only because Gloria Alred made a huge case out of it.

    The maids basis for the case is she wasn't paid enough. That is what gets me.

    $23.00 per hour was not enough.

    I am anxious to see what happens in this next week.

    If this woman does not end up in jail, something is worng with the system.

    The identity theft alone should put her there and I know California takes forging documents to obtain a drivers license very seriously. Under penalty of purgery and all that.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by MCS117 View Post
    If you heard Meg Whitman's statements, she hired Nicky Diaz Santillan through an employment agency and received documentations that she was her legally. She even signed the INI form which means she's here legally and lying on that form means perjury. Well... now that Allred posted a neon sign that Nicky is also an illegal alien, all those documents can now be used as evidence against Nicky and possibly deport her. Now, this is definitely a smear tactic, and possibly the best lie out there because most people don't research on news online enough, and main stream media will definitely downplay Whitman's refutations while play Nicky's accusations 24/7.
    Well... now that Allred posted a neon sign that Nicky is also an illegal alien, all those documents can now be used as evidence against Nicky and possibly put her in jail.

    There I fixed it for you.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are saying that they just looked at the documents and nothing else? They didn't check to see if any of that stuff was real? Sounds like a poor excuse. Like they just turned a blind eye. I would not have used the same agency if I was her.There is also the old saying "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me".
    If the drivers license was real, and that is easy to check, I wouldn't check any farther than that.

    I would rely on the State Of Californias due dilligence on that matter.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Maid issue dominates California debate between Meg Whitman and Jerry Brown - Maggie Haberman - POLITICO.com

    Sparks flew immediately at the second debate between California gubernatorial rivals Meg Whitman and Jerry Brown today, as the under-fire GOP candidate accused her Democratic opponent of masterminding a "risky" flap about the illegal immigrant maid she employed for nine years.

    Whitman came out swinging at Brown in the debate, sponsored by Univision, as she tried to make the most of her air time to regain her footing after her toughest week in the general election.

    "The real tragedy here is Nicky. After Nov. 2, no one's going to be watching out for Nicky Diaz," said Whitman, in a reference to the former housekeeper, who was an illegal immigrant. Whitman has claimed she didn't know about the woman's status.

    "And Jerry, you know you should be ashamed, you and your surrogates ... put her deportation at risk. You put it out there and you should be ashamed for sacrificing Nicky Diaz on the altar of your political ambitions."

    Brown shot back, "Don't run for governor if you can't stand up on your own two feet and say, 'Hey I made a mistake'," Brown said in a moment fraught with tension as the two candidates, neck-and-neck in the polls, turned away from the audience and faced each other directly. "You have blamed her, blamed me, blamed the left, blamed the unions. But you don't take accountability."

    "This is a very sad situation, and the Nicky that I saw on the press conference a few days ago was not the Nicky that I knew for nine years," Whitman said. "And you what my first clue was? She kept referring to me as Ms. Whitman. And for the 10 years, nine years she worked for me, she called me Meg and I called her Nicky."
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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are saying that they just looked at the documents and nothing else? They didn't check to see if any of that stuff was real? Sounds like a poor excuse. Like they just turned a blind eye. I would not have used the same agency if I was her.There is also the old saying "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me".
    There's no excuse needed. When hiring, you ask a potential employee for paperwork that shows they are legal to work in this country, DL, SS card, Resident Alien card, and/or a couple other documents.

    If those documents look authentic to the hirer, they sign an I9 form stating only that they themselves have seen the documents, and they record said documents on the I9 form for the government.

    That's the extent of the employers responsibility. The employer is not obligated to investigate further regarding the applicant.
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