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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Funny how you ignore the rest of the article.
    Not really funny at all. Mertex doesn't want the facts, instead relying on the speculation of the whole thing. In a couple of years when the IRS still hasn't filed charges against Whitman for not paying the required taxes, Mertex will still insist upon her guilt.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Are you calling me a whore? Why don't you man up and come out and say it instead of playing your stupid games? Yes, I think Meg is guilty, so why does that make me a whore? Why are you resorting to insults? Is it because you realize you don't have much to go with other than your gut feeling for another conservative? A lame debater usually resorts to insults, I'm sorry that you have so little that you have to do that.
    Not at all. I was simply engaging in the same (if slightly more over the top) wild speculation that you were. I only indicated that you should do the math. That you have problems with arithmetic is not my problem.


    Because it was cheaper than hiring an American to do the work, and the American would not take her abuse and not do as good a job. She's not the only one that has done it, why do they all do it?
    Where was that cost savings again? She paid a higher than average salary for the job and according to all directly involved (lawyers, Meg, Nicki), the taxes were paid.

    Nicki left her prior employer because she wanted more hours. Why do you think she would leave an employer because she wanted more hours, but not because she was being abused? Why would someone that has an awful relationship with her employer approach her with the admission that she was here illegally and expect any help? If Meg knew she was here illegally the entire time, why pay the going rates, taxes, and only fire her after Nicki's admission? If she knew it all along, wouldn't it have been far wiser to fire her while still contemplating a run for governor? Nicki's story doesn't even make sense.
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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Funny how you ignore the rest of the article.
    The fact that SSN didn't act in response to Whitman's failure to sign the form or respond to their letter doesn't exonorate Whitman. And the fact that Diaz lied doesn't excuse Whitman, either.

    Nice try, though.



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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Not at all. I was simply engaging in the same (if slightly more over the top) wild speculation that you were. I only indicated that you should do the math. That you have problems with arithmetic is not my problem.
    Oh, saying that anyone that thinks Meg is guilty is a whore doesn't mean you are calling me a whore? You are so disingenuous in this instance no wonder you are defending another liar. But that's okay, when you are losing, bring out the insults.

    Has Whitman been exonerated? When she is then you can claim that she was telling the truth, until then, you have no proof, only the snippets that Diaz showed her all the documents that would indicate she was legal. Of course she would, all illegals know what they need to get hired. Only a moron would take their word at it especially when they are getting red flags from government offices.

    Where was that cost savings again? She paid a higher than average salary for the job and according to all directly involved (lawyers, Meg, Nicki), the taxes were paid.
    How do you know she was paying higher than average. No illegal is ever paid more than what an American would work for, otherwise Whitman would have hired an American. According to her lawyer, Whitman had her doing more than required, something she knows she wouldn't be able to pull on an American.

    Nicki left her prior employer because she wanted more hours. Why do you think she would leave an employer because she wanted more hours, but not because she was being abused? Why would someone that has an awful relationship with her employer approach her with the admission that she was here illegally and expect any help?
    Because Nicky probably believed the BS that Whitman fed her, Meg probably made her think she was valued, all the time not really caring crap about her.

    If Meg knew she was here illegally the entire time, why pay the going rates, taxes, and only fire her after Nicki's admission? If she knew it all along, wouldn't it have been far wiser to fire her while still contemplating a run for governor? Nicki's story doesn't even make sense.
    Meg fired her when Meg decided to run for office. I guess she thought that it would not come out.

    Doesn't matter, it looks like people like Brown over Whitman. The outcome of this case will probably be a moot point in a few weeks.

    But she's running against Jerry Brown, who according to Whitman's own poll has a favorable/unfavorable rating of 51-41 -- much better than Whitman's rating of 44-44.



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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Seems like a pretty solid argument to me.
    That remains to be seen. Conservatives are hypocrites because they claim to want to be rid of illegals, then they defend someone that hires them. Brilliant.



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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    The fact that SSN didn't act in response to Whitman's failure to sign the form or respond to their letter doesn't exonorate Whitman. And the fact that Diaz lied doesn't excuse Whitman, either.

    Nice try, though.
    Excuse her form what?! What did she fail to do?! Should she have tortured the woman like ancient Greeks did with slaves?

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    That remains to be seen. Conservatives are hypocrites because they claim to want to be rid of illegals, then they defend someone that hires them. Brilliant.
    Because she did everything by the book. What else do you want from her?

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Oh, saying that anyone that thinks Meg is guilty is a whore doesn't mean you are calling me a whore? You are so disingenuous in this instance no wonder you are defending another liar. But that's okay, when you are losing, bring out the insults.
    I most certainly did not say anyone that thinks Meg is guilty is a whore. That you have problems comprehending what you read is not my problem. That you have problems with math is also not my problem.

    How do you know she was paying higher than average. No illegal is ever paid more than what an American would work for, otherwise Whitman would have hired an American. According to her lawyer, Whitman had her doing more than required, something she knows she wouldn't be able to pull on an American.
    Hey, it finally seems to be sinking in . The maid's $23.00 / hour salary was made public. Others in this thread researched it and located the average salary for that job in that location and discovered she was being paid well. She was certainly not being paid what an illegal immigrant would be paid. Unless you incredulously believe that illegal immigrant maids are being paid 23 per hour.

    You do realze that Alred, while initially claiming that she will be seeking legal remedys, has admitted that she will not be bringing Meg to court for all of these alleged abuses and salary that the maid is owed. She admitted this while talking to Greta Van Sustren. a link to the interview is located earlier in this thread. Makes it seems like Alred made all of these claims for rather suspicious reasons, but knows there is nothign there.

    Because Nicky probably believed the BS that Whitman fed her, Meg probably made her think she was valued, all the time not really caring crap about her.
    So, let's see. The maid believed that Meg thought she was a highly valued member of the family that would love to help her with her problems, while mercileslly abusing her for the past 9 years. On top of that, the maid is more than happy to leave her prior job because she wants more hours, but is not willing to leave a job in which she's working alot more hours then she's being paid for and the employer is "abusing her". It just seems to all make so much sense. Thank you for explaining it so well.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    The closer we get to Democrat melt down 2010 and Obama's Armageddon the weaker the arguments used by the Left get.

    In this case the damage to Meg Whitman's campaign by the false charges claimed the illegal alien who as it turns out is also guilty of multiple felonies and is now subject not only to deportation but a long stint in federal prison because of her "lawyer" Gloria Allwet has been done and it looks like Kalifornia is going to die a more sudden economic death than the rest of the Nation at Obama's hand because Brown leads in the polls.

    Brown wants all illegals to get an education at our expense and the damn fools in Kalifornia are going to let it happen most likely along with Brown making the whole State open to Illegals.

    And some people wonder why true Americans are pissed off?

    They had better wake up while they can because one the downward spiral gets going it will take all the Liberals who are not at the top down the toilet with the rest of the proletariat.

    For those less educated lefties that means a citizens of the lowest class, in Obama Marxist speak.

    Hope you will be able to rejoice as you starve to death in poverty as you watch the car you once treasured rust into oblivion in the street becaus you won't have a driveway at the gulag, but it won't matter because it will have run out od $12 to $15 a gal gas long before you were forced out of your suburbia life style because the coming AB-32 in Kalifornia, and Cap and Trade on top of that are going to cost over $5000 a year per driver to use the freeways just to force you into over crowed cities before the gulags are ready for you.

    Oh any children or grandchildren they will get to go to school to be brain washed and learn to worship the new Messiah. And sing to him, it turns out it has been done before. Only that time it wasn't a Marxist:

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Excuse her form what?!
    Pleading ignorance doesn't excuse you from the law. Geez, what have we been talking about. Do you need me to recap the whole conversation, so you can keep up?

    What did she fail to do?!
    She failed to sign the form. if she was 100% sure that she had a legal, documented employee, she would have signed the freakin form. She didn't sign it, which just makes it even more suspicious that she knew Diaz was illegal.

    Should she have tortured the woman like ancient Greeks did with slaves?
    Are you trying to be funny? She claims to be tough on employers that hire illegals, and yet she does it herself. I guess Reps aren't as concerned with illegals working in the US, or is it only when they are working for other than Republicans?



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