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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    You do realize that the fact that the they sent whitman a not match letter (and according to Allred many letters) means that she was actually paying the appropriate taxes?

    Now, I realize that both Allred and the maid have a very long and documented history of lying, so believing them might be risky. But, since you are apparently at a point where you believe everything they say, you should also believe them when they state that the maid saw many lettters in the trash.
    Then why doesn't Whitman just show her copies of Nicky's W-4s????? If she had been subtracting taxes from Nicky's wages then she would have the W-4s to prove it. Why is that so difficult?

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Then why doesn't Whitman just show her copies of Nicky's W-4s????? If she had been subtracting taxes from Nicky's wages then she would have the W-4s to prove it. Why is that so difficult?
    Because it's not necessary for most people. Most people realize that the reason they sent her the not match letter is because she was paying the proper taxes but they couldn't match that money to the ID that Nicki provided. You seem to be one of the few that actually think this is a relevant topic.

    It's kind of like the people that claim that Obama should his birth certificate to prove he was born in HI. People that believe that Obama was not born in the US and people (you) that believe Meg didn't pay proper taxes, even though the not match letter is saying that she did actually pay them, are well on the edges of political discourse. In other words, they are kooks. Welcome to kookdom, my friend.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Because it's not necessary for most people. Most people realize that the reason they sent her the not match letter is because she was paying the proper taxes but they couldn't match that money to the ID that Nicki provided. You seem to be one of the few that actually think this is a relevant topic.

    It's kind of like the people that claim that Obama should his birth certificate to prove he was born in HI. People that believe that Obama was not born in the US and people (you) that believe Meg didn't pay proper taxes, even though the not match letter is saying that she did actually pay them, are well on the edges of political discourse. In other words, they are kooks. Welcome to kookdom, my friend.
    If Whitman was innocent then why doesn't she just show Nicki's W-4s???? Nicki couldn't have thrown those away because they had to be filled out by the employer and copies made. So your analogy to Obama's birth certificant is stupid and irrelevant, because unlike the braindead birthers, no one on the left could or would dispute Nicki's W-4 statements if in fact they even exist. So show us money, hunny bunny.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Meg Whitman is the victim in this episode? That's rich! She receives nine years of loyal service and when her employee asks for help Meg Whitman discards her like so much disposable Ebay crap.
    I tend to disassociate myself from criminals, too. Meg Whitman received good housekeeping with a side of lies, fraud, and deceit.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Obviously not, since the greedy grubber Whitman can't prove she withheld any taxes on a W-4, and she still owes her housekeeper for the hours she worked before she fired her.
    As long as the IRS confirms that the taxes were paid by Whitman, I am fine with that.

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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Because it's not necessary for most people. Most people realize that the reason they sent her the not match letter is because she was paying the proper taxes but they couldn't match that money to the ID that Nicki provided. You seem to be one of the few that actually think this is a relevant topic.
    You seem to be the one going out on a limb trying to make this fabricated story of Whitman's a reality. Why would Whitman ignore the letter from the SSA that claimed the SSN didn't match the name and continue to pay taxes for 9 years? That, for someone running for Governor sounds like sheer stupidity!

    It's kind of like the people that claim that Obama should his birth certificate to prove he was born in HI. People that believe that Obama was not born in the US and people (you) that believe Meg didn't pay proper taxes, even though the not match letter is saying that she did actually pay them, are well on the edges of political discourse. In other words, they are kooks. Welcome to kookdom, my friend.
    The Birther conspiracy is kookdom, because Bush/Cheney turned over the keys to the White House, and Congress accepted Obama - just minor indications that he is not alien born. The story on Whitman is not anywhere a conspiracy. There is a maid, she worked for 9 years for Whitman, she doesn't speak English well, and Whitman wasn't able to figure out that she might be undocumented?

    The ones that are in kookdom here are the ones that are trying to buy her story as credible. Nice to make your acquaintance.



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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    As long as the IRS confirms that the taxes were paid by Whitman, I am fine with that.

    Heh,heh! The IRS is going to show that someone else with the SSN provided by Whitman's maid paid taxes, not her - remember, the SSN the maid provided, the Soc Sec Admin had registered to another person. If Whitman was paying taxes, they were being credited to the person that the SSA had as owner of the SSN!



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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    You seem to be the one going out on a limb trying to make this fabricated story of Whitman's a reality. Why would Whitman ignore the letter from the SSA that claimed the SSN didn't match the name and continue to pay taxes for 9 years? That, for someone running for Governor sounds like sheer stupidity!
    No idea. However, we do know, since the not match letter was sent, that she obviously paid all relevant taxes for the maid. If they were sent every year, as Alred claims Nicki said, then she paid them every year. Lastly, the immigration attorney working for the maid indicates that all taxes have been paid. He said this hoping that it would help with her citizenship quest.



    The story on Whitman is not anywhere a conspiracy. There is a maid, she worked for 9 years for Whitman, she doesn't speak English well, and Whitman wasn't able to figure out that she might be undocumented?

    The ones that are in kookdom here are the ones that are trying to buy her story as credible. Nice to make your acquaintance.
    I've heard Nicki speak, and she spoke english just fine. However, if I am to understand you, we should all just assume that anyone that doesn't speak english perfectly is an illegal alien. So, in your world, any hispanic with an accent, even with an I9, driver's license, social security card, etc should be rejected for employment?

    The Birther conspiracy is kookdom, because Bush/Cheney turned over the keys to the White House, and Congress accepted Obama - just minor indications that he is not alien born.
    Obama shows his short form birth certificate. Just as Alred shows the not match letter and Whitman shows the documentation for the maid.

    The short form BC would, to most people, indicate that obama was indeed born in HI. The not match letter and other documents would, to most people, show that she had been paying the relevant taxes. Alred's and the new immigration attorney's statements would just be additional evidence of this, just as the birth notices in the Hawiian newspapers are additional evidence of Obama's birth place.

    In both instances you have indivduals outside the mainstream claiming that the documentation presented doesn't prove what it actually does.
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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    No idea.
    It doesn't make sense that you would have a maid for 9 years and never know much about their background, their family? Supporters of Whitman claim that she is that type of person, doesn't get close to her employees - which would make one wonder if she would then be a good governor candidate.

    And people do not generally ignore letters from Social Security or IRS, especially someone with employees. That, doesn't compute.

    However, we do know, since the not match letter was sent, that she obviously paid all relevant taxes for the maid. If they were sent every year, as Alred claims Nicki said, then she paid them every year. Lastly, the immigration attorney working for the maid indicates that all taxes have been paid. He said this hoping that it would help with her citizenship quest.
    Can you provide a link where it says that she paid the taxes? The letter from SSA could have been sent for other reasons. If taxes were paid, I'm sure there will be documentation to prove it, and that would be the only thing that would make Whitman's story believable, otherwise, it is just hearsay.

    I've heard Nicki speak, and she spoke english just fine. However, if I am to understand you, we should all just assume that anyone that doesn't speak english perfectly is an illegal alien. So, in your world, any hispanic with an accent, even with an I9, driver's license, social security card, etc should be rejected for employment?
    Don't go making stuff up. Where did I say that those that don't speak English well are illegal aliens? Someone applying for a housekeeper's job that doesn't speak English well raises a red flag. Whitman should have used that as an incentive to further check her out, but she didn't. Because schooling is mandatory in the US, most Americans should have a good handle on the English language - or should have a good reason as to why they don't.

    Obama shows his short form birth certificate. Just as Alred shows the not match letter and Whitman shows the documentation for the maid.
    Hawaii officials have verified the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate, has the IRS and SSA verified that Whitman paid the appropriate taxes, that the maid did also?

    The short form BC would, to most people, indicate that obama was indeed born in HI. The not match letter and other documents would, to most people, show that she had been paying the relevant taxes.
    Do you have a link to something that proves the SSA letter was in regards to taxes, or are you assuming?

    Alred's and the new immigration attorney's statements would just be additional evidence of this, just as the birth notices in the Hawiian newspapers are additional evidence of Obama's birth place.
    What statements from Alred and immigration attorney are you referring to?

    In both instances you have indivduals outside the mainstream claiming that the documentation presented doesn't prove what it actually does.
    Obama's case has been settled. Whitman's case is still under investigation, we will have to wait and see what develops.



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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    It doesn't make sense that you would have a maid for 9 years and never know much about their background, their family? Supporters of Whitman claim that she is that type of person, doesn't get close to her employees - which would make one wonder if she would then be a good governor candidate.
    Yes, because my number one qualifier for a governor is that they get close to their employees.


    Can you provide a link where it says that she paid the taxes? The letter from SSA could have been sent for other reasons. If taxes were paid, I'm sure there will be documentation to prove it, and that would be the only thing that would make Whitman's story believable, otherwise, it is just hearsay.
    So, why would the social security department send a letter indicating that they can't match the (taxes) with the employee if Meg didn't pay the mone ? Additionally, if she hadn't been paying taxes, I have no doubt the IRS would have been all over it by now. Do you really think the IRS wouldn't be aware? That's what tripped up all of the other individuals in that list someone else posted about cadidates that got caught up in illiegal immigrant scandals.

    Don't go making stuff up. Where did I say that those that don't speak English well are illegal aliens? Someone applying for a housekeeper's job that doesn't speak English well raises a red flag. Whitman should have used that as an incentive to further check her out, but she didn't. Because schooling is mandatory in the US, most Americans should have a good handle on the English language - or should have a good reason as to why they don't.
    So you think she should have broken the law and engaged in racial profiling simply because she's a maid with brown skin and an accent? I'm just trying to pin down what you mean... BTW, you said it right here:
    There is a maid, she worked for 9 years for Whitman, she doesn't speak English well, and Whitman wasn't able to figure out that she might be undocumented?
    What did you mean if not that because Nicki didn't speak english very well, Whitman should have suspected?


    Hawaii officials have verified the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate, has the IRS and SSA verified that Whitman paid the appropriate taxes, that the maid did also?
    The social security department did by sending a letter indicating, essentially, that they didn't know where to place these earnings. The IRS is essentially backing that up with the fact that nothing has happened regarding accusations of Meg not paying the taxes.

    What statements from Alred and immigration attorney are you referring to?
    For one, I would have to say the statement by the immigration attorney indicating that the fact that Nicki has paid all taxes is fairly convinving evidence that even the social security taxes have been paid. Otherwise, what do you think he might have meant by "all taxes"?
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