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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    The problem is, of course, that one of Ms. Whitman's big rah-rah rallying cries is her determination that EMPLOYERS SHOULD BE PUNISHED/MADE LIABLE for hiring illegal immigrants.

    From her website:


    From a speech at UC Davis:


    From her campaign brochure:


    At the Cal State Fresno debate:

    Ok, so what has changed that you libs see so damning that Whitman is such a hypocrite that she just shouldn't go on? hmmmm?

    The woman was hired through an employment service that is supposed to have all that in order when they refer her to the prospective employer.

    The woman had fake id, ssn, and documentation that was convincing enough to have the federal government not question it for some 9 years. Then as soon as she gets into a race for Gov. against the states AG it get's uncovered...Yeah, no coincidence there....


    Of course, when challenged by Jerry Brown to own up to her own massive personal hypocrisy of being the employer of an illegal immigrant for NINE YEARS.... suddenly, her "As your governor I promise to go after people who employ illegals!" battle cry turns into:

    "Jerry, you should be ashamed [putting] her deportation at risk."


    As if, you know, she actually gave a **** about this woman.
    How pathetic is this, you want to paint Whitman as some kind of monster, when it is your own party, and the Brown campaign that will use this woman, then cast her aside to fend off the Federal charges she will face now that Brown's friend, Gloria Allred has botched this case for her client. Nice going libs, this is just another example of how libs could really care less about the people that they claim to have in best interest.

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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so what has changed that you libs* see so damning that Whitman is such a hypocrite that she just shouldn't go on?
    Nothing's changed. Being an unapologetic hypocrite is worthy of criticism regardless of political leaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The woman was hired through an employment service that is supposed to have all that in order when they refer her to the prospective employer.

    The woman had fake id, ssn, and documentation that was convincing enough to have the federal government not question it for some 9 years.
    This is all true. What's your point?

    Here's Meg's:

    We do have to hold employers accountable for hiring only documented workers, and we do have to enforce that law.
    Meg Whitman was the woman's employer. Notice how she's not taking responsibility OR holding herself accountable?






    * You can drop the "you libs" whitewash crap; it rarely works and not at all in my case. You should know by now that I lean as far right as I do left, depending on the issue. How many liberals have you met who think we don't use the death penalty nearly enough?

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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Could the thread title be edited for accuracy? Mrs Whitman may have denied the accusations but she certainly has not refuted them. Perhaps the OP meant "refudiate", which can mean anything you want it to.
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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Nothing's changed. Being an unapologetic hypocrite is worthy of criticism regardless of political leaning.



    This is all true. What's your point?

    Here's Meg's:



    Meg Whitman was the woman's employer. Notice how she's not taking responsibility OR holding herself accountable?

    Whitman when confronted with the situation acted in the appropriate manner. now you will continue to pillory her for it instead of getting mad at the person doing the real damage to this illegal, and that is Brown.

    * You can drop the "you libs" whitewash crap; it rarely works and not at all in my case. You should know by now that I lean as far right as I do left, depending on the issue. How many liberals have you met who think we don't use the death penalty nearly enough?
    Ok, so you're not crazy, bat**** , far left communist....so?


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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Whitman when confronted with the situation acted in the appropriate manner.
    Really? How do you figure? Why didn't she turn her housekeeper over to immigration authorities for deportation as soon as she "found out" the woman was here illegally? Isn't that what she should have done if she believes so strongly that illegal immigrants don't belong in the country and that employers have an obligation to help enforce that law?

    Further, did she man up and say:

    You know, I've been going on and on about how I want to punish employers for hiring illegal immigrants (whether the employee lies about their true legal status or not), but now I see that my solution to the problem is entirely lacking, because there are many employers - JUST LIKE ME - who did everything right by going through a professional agency that did carefully check the employee's documents and believed them to be legitimate.

    But I was wrong. Through no fault of my own. The agency was wrong, too. Through no fault of their own. And my desire to simply prosecute any employer of an illegal immigrant is wrong, as well, because - as we've seen in my case - in spite of trying to do all the right things, I ended up doing the wrong thing, anyway.

    So, we're left with the question of how to prevent prosecuting those who actually HAVE done all they could to avoid employing illegals. My solution to the problem of developing immigration documentation that cannot be faked or forged is... blah blah blah

    Anything less is unapologetic hypocrisy. Additionally, the above is the ONLY way she'll wiggle out of this politically, and she's not budging.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    now you will continue to pillory her for it
    Well, her and her PR people. They must be complete idiots.
    Last edited by Glinda; 10-05-10 at 01:32 PM.

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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Really? How do you figure?

    Did she man up and say:
    No, see what you look for are words meant to fuel your attacks against her, what her actions were are what matters, and her actions were absolutely correct.

    Anything less is unapologetic hypocrisy. Additionally, the above is the ONLY way she'll wiggle out of this politically, and she's not budging.
    so Brown has no responsibility in this trash eh? Beautiful. Talk about hypocritical thinking.

    Well, her and her PR people. They must be complete idiots.
    We'll see, so you're voting Brown then?


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    Re: Meg Whitman Refutes Allegations by Former Housekeeper

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Considering Whitman was paying an above average wage for the services and was paying social security taxes, what do you think was the benefit for Meg to knowingly hire an illegal? It just doesn't make any sense. If I were going to hire an illegal, I would certainly not be paying Social Security, and would never pay a wage equivalent to what I would pay for a legitimate worker.
    You also wouldn't be out their talking about getting tough on those who employ illegal aliens if you knew you were doing that yourself.
    I don't think Whitman or the agency did anything wrong. Nicky had all the documents including a Ca. drivers license.
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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Nothing's changed. Being an unapologetic hypocrite is worthy of criticism regardless of political leaning.



    This is all true. What's your point?

    Here's Meg's:



    Meg Whitman was the woman's employer. Notice how she's not taking responsibility OR holding herself accountable?





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    I don't think employers should be held accountable for hiring illegals who have all the required documents. Do you?
    If so, that may cause employers to be very leary of hiring anyone with brown skin or who didn't speak perfect english, no matter what proof of citizanship they had.
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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, see what you look for are words meant to fuel your attacks against her, what her actions were are what matters
    I've already said as much. She didn't turn the woman in, as she insists other employers must do or risk prosecution, did she? Furthermore, she refuses to accept her own responsibility in the matter.

    Oh, her actions speak VOLUMES.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    and her actions were absolutely correct.
    Pre-hire, yeah. I've already said as much.

    The problem is that her "solution" is to prosecute the employer - whether or not the employer legitimately did everything possible to avoid hiring an illegal. She/the agency apparently DID do everything they could to avoid it, but they still failed. This shows that the problem goes FAR deeper than simply prosecuting those who hire illegals, because sometimes there's just no way to KNOW; there is a much larger problem with legitimate documentation.

    And she's ignoring it at her own peril. To refuse to address this aspect of the problem, she's essentially saying "Well, I did everything I could and they TRICKED ME!!! Those OTHER people who hire illegals should be prosecuted, but not me." The height of hypocrisy.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    so Brown has no responsibility in this trash eh? Beautiful. Talk about hypocritical thinking.
    I'm afraid this isn't a thread about Jerry Brown. It's about Meg Whitman's employing an illegal immigrant for nine years and not taking ANY kind of responsibility for her actions. The fact that she's running on a platform of "BUST ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS" is simply the icing on the hypocrisy cake.

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    Re: get out the Nutella. This chick's toast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I don't think employers should be held accountable for hiring illegals who have all the required documents. Do you?
    If so, that may cause employers to be very leary of hiring anyone with brown skin or who didn't speak perfect english, no matter what proof of citizanship they had.
    DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!

    You actually figured this out on your own!?

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