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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    an idiotic claim. less big business would mean everyone would be poorer. and since "poor" is based on income distribution (rather than the fact that the poor have luxuries today that top 1% people didn't have 30 years ago) there will always be plenty of poor even if poor means having a mercedes, and a plasma TV if the average person has 3 mercedes and three TVs
    Not less business. MORE. Just not to big to fail like BOA.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

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    Libertarians want to be left alone and believe in personal responsibility. You believe in neither.
    Where have I said that I dont believe in personal responsibility?

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    If a Libertarian set the rules there would not be one in seven being poor because big business, government over spending, and fair traid would be kept in check. Not have a government whos policy is being set by the highest bidder.
    Libertarians don't believe in rules

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Where have I said that I dont believe in personal responsibility?
    There are many poor people because of failure to accept personal responsibility not because they were demonized by big business, instead the demonized by their own govt. that keeps them dependent. Taking handouts from the American taxpayer isn't accepting personal responsibility. I worked with them, employed thousands, and brought many out of poverty. Business does that for individuals, not the govt.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Libertarians want to be left alone and believe in personal responsibility. You believe in neither.
    Being "left alone" is a very shallow understanding of the basic libertarian principle of noncoercion. Libertarians aspire to a minimal government that respects the fundamental liberty of al people. So it's not just about being left along, but ensuring the right to be free from coercive practices for all people.

    Ender is one of the few true libertarians on these boards.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Your grandfather lived on the galapanos so that does not count
    that would be a tortoise my friend

    we prefer ponds



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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Being "left alone" is a very shallow understanding of the basic libertarian principle of noncoercion. Libertarians aspire to a minimal government that respects the fundamental liberty of al people. So it's not just about being left along, but ensuring the right to be free from coercive practices for all people.

    Ender is one of the few true libertarians on these boards.
    he's sort of a libertarian who subordinates freedom to some extent. But he is close. You are no where near being a libertarian in the most well known definition. As I noted before, contrarian is the proper term for you and you certainly do not argue in favor of freedom



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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Libertarians don't believe in rules
    I disagree-libertarians believe in laws that make real crime illegal-I have never met a libertarian who is against laws prohibiting murder, robbery forcible rape, breaking and entering, assault, or even slander illegal. its stuff like prostitution, smoking reefer that they oppose since those are really victimless crimes. I have never met a libertarian who wants to abolish all taxation either.



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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Being "left alone" is a very shallow understanding of the basic libertarian principle of noncoercion. Libertarians aspire to a minimal government that respects the fundamental liberty of al people. So it's not just about being left along, but ensuring the right to be free from coercive practices for all people.

    Ender is one of the few true libertarians on these boards.
    How does any true Libertarian believe that Obama is a better President than GW Bush? That flies in the face of the basic principles of being a Libertarian. Obama is a Libertarian nightmare, massive expansion of govt. and regulations.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Not less business. MORE. Just not to big to fail like BOA.
    do you know that 80% of all diners or retaurants fail within the first year of their founding? big or little businesses can fail. hating big business reeks of ignorant populist nonsense. big business can be good or bad but its moronic to say all big business is bad



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