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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I rationalize being poor as a reality and that there will always be poor. I don't try to decieve myself about some utopia where there's no war, everyone's fed, everyone has houses and everyone has a fairy princess that grants them sandwiches and blow jobs whenever they please. I lived through it, prospered not at the cost of someone's sweat but my own. And as I said, being poor in America is upper middle class in many countries.
    #1) We are not talking about other countries.
    #2) Starting a war for no good reason is a problem
    #3) Are you saying children dont go to bed hungry in this country
    #4) How sure are you that eveyone has a house. Ever been in ones with dirt floors. I have and it sucks.
    #5) Where can I get a fairy princess like that.

    Are you actually trying to justify that one in seven americans is at the poverty level and thats ok because as long as they are not naked and starving we are better off than other counties.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As a libertarian, what is your solution to taking care of the poor and making the poor responsible for taking care of themselves?
    If a Libertarian set the rules there would not be one in seven being poor because big business, government over spending, and fair traid would be kept in check. Not have a government whos policy is being set by the highest bidder.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    #1) We are not talking about other countries.
    One must compare and contrast to understand.
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    #2) Starting a war for no good reason is a problem
    We're not talking about starting wars for no good reason.
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    #3) Are you saying children dont go to bed hungry in this country
    I'm saying some children have always gone to sleep hungry in this world and nothing will change that.
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    #4) How sure are you that eveyone has a house. Ever been in ones with dirt floors. I have and it sucks.
    If dirt floors is all people know, it doesn't suck. You think it sucks because you've lived in places without dirt floors. See how comparison and contrasting situations gives perspective and understanding?
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    #5) Where can I get a fairy princess like that.
    Alas, they don't exist, just like utopia doesn't exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Are you actually trying to justify that one in seven americans is at the poverty level and thats ok because as long as they are not naked and starving we are better off than other counties.
    I think I answered this twice already. If you didn't get it by now, you won't after I explain it for the third time. See post #880.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    You think being poor is comfortable.
    poor people in the USA today are far more comfortable than the top 1% were in the era of my grandfather.
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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    If a Libertarian set the rules there would not be one in seven being poor because big business, government over spending, and fair traid would be kept in check. Not have a government whos policy is being set by the highest bidder.
    an idiotic claim. less big business would mean everyone would be poorer. and since "poor" is based on income distribution (rather than the fact that the poor have luxuries today that top 1% people didn't have 30 years ago) there will always be plenty of poor even if poor means having a mercedes, and a plasma TV if the average person has 3 mercedes and three TVs
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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    poor people in the USA today are far more comfortable than the top 1% were in the era of my grandfather.
    Your grandfather lived on the galapanos so that does not count

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    If a Libertarian set the rules there would not be one in seven being poor because big business, government over spending, and fair traid would be kept in check. Not have a government whos policy is being set by the highest bidder.
    LOL, yep, a good libertarian you are, personal responsibility is not an issue. Better change your political leanings.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, yep, a good libertarian you are, personal responsibility is not an issue. Better change your political leanings.

    So you are 100% in line with everything the conservative party does. If you are your a sheep.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    poor people in the USA today are far more comfortable than the top 1% were in the era of my grandfather.
    That is patently untrue! What are you basing this on, the fact that most poor people have a microwave and a tv these days? Rich people in your grandfather's era may not have had all the technological advances that the poor have today, but I guarantee you that had access to medical treatment whenever they needed it, which is a lot more than you can say for the American poor these days. Poor people these days might have all the fast food they can eat, but the rich from your grandfather's day were getting far more nutritious meals than any poor person is today. Shall I go on? I could do this all day.

    This is the basic fallacy of trickle down theory, which is why it's been debunked so thoroughly.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    So you are 100% in line with everything the conservative party does. If you are your a sheep.
    Libertarians want to be left alone and believe in personal responsibility. You believe in neither.

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