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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Greenspan: "It might eventually threaten the stability of democratic capitalism itself."

    Your paraphrase: "It threatens the stability of our democratic capitalist society."
    Thats because Greenspan said it in 2005 and five years later the poverty gap is now threatening the stability of our democratic capitalist society.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

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    raising taxes on those who can afford to pay .... those who most benefit from our national economy appears to be a fiscally prudent act
    to do otherwise would expand the amount of deficit spending required
    Fiscally prudent for who? Not for the American people. Perhaps if we didn't piss away trillions of dollars on bull****, there wouldn't be so much deficit spending.


    and being a business owner freshly examining the books, identify for us the financial cost to your business and the others like it, which expenses result from the recent health care bill and the federal regulations on the horizon
    that request is made assuming you still insist those factors have also contributed to the onset of the great recession
    I now, have to send 1099's to all my vendors, that I spend $600 or more with. I'm in the trucking business, so that means that I'm going to have to 1099 most of the places that my trucks fuel up at. Off the top of my head I came up with 56 different vendors that I'm going to have to 1099. My accountant has estimated that it's going to cost about $15 per 1099 and that I should be aware that that price might go up, depending on how much time she has to spend finding out all the necessary tax info on those vendors.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If the complant here is that the gap between the wealthy and the poor is too great, that said gap must be narrowed, and that the rich should facilitate this thru higher taxes, how are we NOT talking about the redistribution of wealth?
    the gap IS too large. the middle class is shrinking. that's not good for anyone, rich, middle class, or poor. now, i posted about social mobility awhile back, and that what we are losing in this country. the ABILITY to advance. we need to be certain that exists, or we will collapse. not soon, but certainly at some point. if what we end up with is just rich and poor, watch out. that's when the **** will hit the fan.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    that's just crap.
    Ok, then, what do you hope is accomplished by raising taxes?
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the gap IS too large. the middle class is shrinking. that's not good for anyone, rich, middle class, or poor. now, i posted about social mobility awhile back, and that what we are losing in this country. the ABILITY to advance. we need to be certain that exists, or we will collapse. not soon, but certainly at some point. if what we end up with is just rich and poor, watch out. that's when the **** will hit the fan.
    You didnt answer the question.
    If the complant here is that the gap between the wealthy and the poor is too great, that said gap must be narrowed, and that the rich should facilitate this thru higher taxes, how are we NOT talking about the redistribution of wealth?

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Thats because Greenspan said it in 2005 and five years later the poverty gap is now threatening the stability of our democratic capitalist society.
    The only thing threatening our democratic capitalist society, is our current government.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, then, what do you hope is accomplished by raising taxes?
    i think letting the tax cuts expire for the wealthy, individuals, will provide more needed revenue. we are spending a lot to climb out of this downturn. taxes on business shouldn't be raised, in fact, tax cuts for small business is a good thing. at the same time, i want us to cut spending. and eventually, we will.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the gap IS too large. the middle class is shrinking. that's not good for anyone, rich, middle class, or poor. now, i posted about social mobility awhile back, and that what we are losing in this country. the ABILITY to advance. we need to be certain that exists, or we will collapse. not soon, but certainly at some point. if what we end up with is just rich and poor, watch out. that's when the **** will hit the fan.
    That ability is being destroyed by our government, not by the rich folks. Taking money from rich people isn't going to fix any of that.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Thats because Greenspan said it in 2005 and five years later the poverty gap is now threatening the stability of our democratic capitalist society.
    Scientist in 2005: "Global warming threatens to raise sea levels substantially"

    My paraphrase, today: "I'M DROWNING, HALP"

    The fact that Greenspan once said that something might happen in the future does not offer support for the argument that it is happening now.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think letting the tax cuts expire for the wealthy, individuals, will provide more needed revenue. we are spending a lot to climb out of this downturn.
    What good is that revenue going to do? The government can't create wealth. Poor people aren't going to stop being poor, just because the government hosed down a buncha rich people for more taxes.

    taxes on business shouldn't be raised, in fact, tax cuts for small business is a good thing. at the same time, i want us to cut spending. and eventually, we will.
    Well, guess what! Alotta those evil, greedy, racist rich folks, are small business owners, who file under an s-corp, which put's their personal income above Obama's level of how much personal wealth is acceptable to him. Remember when he said, "at some point, you've made enough money"? Who gets to decide what that point is?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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