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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, I have and 90% of the poor folks I've seen are poor, because of the choices they made in life. Most of that 90% made the choice to be a buncha ****-offs all their lives and/or sit on the porch waiting for the mail man to bring that big payoff.

    I'm not educated. In fact, numerous people on this forume have claimed that I'm stupid as hell--refer to Moot's ast post. One member even went so far as to say that that I'm, "An embarressment to all black people with an IQ above 75", and I seem to have gone out in the world and done fairly good for myself. Now, if someone as dumb as myself can make it, what the **** is everyone else's excuse?
    How young are you? Concerning your post, I agree, most of the poor make wrong choices, as half of my siblings have. These kind of people have one thing in common, they are way too stubborn to listen to smarter people. You say you are "making" it....but you haven't MADE it yet, not til you retire with enough money to enjoy your retirement years. Here is something else you might call me a liar about, I retired at age 57, that is 7 years ago....didn't plan on it, just lost my job. But I had money put aside, the house paid for, and a wife that made good money.
    THAT, by the way, should be part of every man's retirement plan, have a smart wife with a good job.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    An education exposes you to more opportunities, more doors are open for you.

    Are you saying that your job requires little education? Is your job manual labor and dangerous? Want to do that til you are 67 years old?
    College grads make more than tech school grads, who make more than High School grads, who make more than dropouts.
    Not always, but most of the time. The govt says so....
    My ex-wife is a board certified social worker--with a master's degree--my wife is a software engineer, my best friend is a school teacher and I make anywhere from double, to triple their salaries. One of my wife's friends is a meterologist and has been delivering pizzas for Dominoes for more than two years now, because he can't find a job. So, again, a degree and a guarantee of a job and success are totally different animals.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    How young are you? Concerning your post, I agree, most of the poor make wrong choices, as half of my siblings have. These kind of people have one thing in common, they are way too stubborn to listen to smarter people. You say you are "making" it....but you haven't MADE it yet, not til you retire with enough money to enjoy your retirement years. Here is something else you might call me a liar about, I retired at age 57, that is 7 years ago....didn't plan on it, just lost my job. But I had money put aside, the house paid for, and a wife that made good money.
    THAT, by the way, should be part of every man's retirement plan, have a smart wife with a good job.
    That's awesome. I'm happy for you. I really am. And, if you're getting away with stiffing Uncle Sam, I support that 100%. Only in a capitalist free market society could you do that.

    Me? I'll work until I die. I enjoy working and getting dirty, on my terms, not someone else's. There's no feeling in the world like dealing with my headaches, pains in the ass and bull****, vs. dealing with someone else's.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My ex-wife is a board certified social worker--with a master's degree--my wife is a software engineer, my best friend is a school teacher and I make anywhere from double, to triple their salaries. One of my wife's friends is a meterologist and has been delivering pizzas for Dominoes for more than two years now, because he can't find a job. So, again, a degree and a guarantee of a job and success are totally different animals.
    Your small sample doesn't scale up very well. On average, the more education you have, the better your life will be.
    What exactly do you do? Is it dangerous and physically demanding? Can you do that when you are old, like over 50? Are you doing it now? Or is the drilling moratorium keeping you from working?.
    For many years I made more than my wife. I was an instrument technician, metrology tech, and reactor operator. All good paying jobs, but I topped out early and subsequent pay raises were minimal. Her pay, tho, kept going up, and surpassed mine. Now, her retirement is twice mine, so when I say we have a 6 figure retirement, 2/3 of it is hers...
    Together we make about $120,000 per year, and that may go up soon. If my VA disability comes through, I will be making a lot more, and disability pay is TAX FREE.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, glad we got that cleared up. It's proven: I didn't call him a Marxist, only that his comments resembled those made by Karl Marx. Looks like I'm not the only poor lad that is confused. Eh?

    Like I said now the” Now the wiggling starts eh “ What were you inferring/implying with the
    (That almost sounds like something that Karl Maex would say) statement
    To UtahBills sentence
    Think of it as dues paid for the privilege of living in such a nice country, with real opportunities for anyone willing to do their share of the work on the road to success.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Your small sample doesn't scale up very well. On average, the more education you have, the better your life will be.
    What exactly do you do? Is it dangerous and physically demanding? Can you do that when you are old, like over 50? Are you doing it now? Or is the drilling moratorium keeping you from working?.
    For many years I made more than my wife. I was an instrument technician, metrology tech, and reactor operator. All good paying jobs, but I topped out early and subsequent pay raises were minimal. Her pay, tho, kept going up, and surpassed mine. Now, her retirement is twice mine, so when I say we have a 6 figure retirement, 2/3 of it is hers...
    Together we make about $120,000 per year, and that may go up soon. If my VA disability comes through, I will be making a lot more, and disability pay is TAX FREE.
    What does one have to do to get that education? Work one's ass off, right? Hello?!?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's awesome. I'm happy for you. I really am. And, if you're getting away with stiffing Uncle Sam, I support that 100%. Only in a capitalist free market society could you do that.

    Me? I'll work until I die. I enjoy working and getting dirty, on my terms, not someone else's. There's no feeling in the world like dealing with my headaches, pains in the ass and bull****, vs. dealing with someone else's.
    Sorry to hear your aims in life are so low....work is honorable, but you can't depend on always being able to do it. Hell, my grandmother told me when I was 12 to get an education because my body won't ever support me. I was a skinny, short, runt. I did manage to grow some after high school, up to 5' 10", but was still skinny as a rail. She was right, I wasn't about to make money with my body. And you shouldn't depend on it either. I have a relative who screwed up his knees while still in high school, and now that he is 60, he really suffers. That can happen to any one at any time.
    At the least, make sure you have good disability insurance. Stuff happens, and it is always unexpected...
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Like I said now the” Now the wiggling starts eh “ What were you inferring/implying with the

    To UtahBills sentence
    But, I didn't, "call him a Marxist", correct? I only said that his comments were Marxist-esque. Still confused, laddy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What does one have to do to get that education? Work one's ass off, right? Hello?!?
    yes, and a friend said it this way (to a bunch of teenagers, one was my son), you can work hard for 4 years getting an education that makes your life easier, or you can work hard the rest of your life while regretting not getting that education. I am not saying that college is for everybody, you can do just as well with good technical training. I got mine in the navy....
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