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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Some of you still want to make this about poor whiny bitch poor people that didn't prepare themselves for a future having all their money stolen by evil rich people. Id LOVE to hear how that goes. Id love to hear how hard working people lost everything because some rich guy sneaked into their home and stole it from them.

    Sorry...no excuses. If you FAIL you FAIL because you are a FAILURE...because you didn't prepare yourself. Blame yourself-go look in the mirror and see who is responsible. Blame your mommy and daddy for not teaching you the value of hard work...but stop pretending ANYONE else is to blame. Its not about tax rates. Its not about pay scales. People fail because they failed to prepare and fail to work hard to undo the damage they themselves caused. They got college degrees in fields with no future. I work with people daily who dug themselves into the fail pit and through hard work...yes...even in today's economy, dug themselves out. Its not easy. Its hard work. They don't do it by doing the same failed things. I also work with many that have have just quit...they whine or complain about how unfair it is. There is no hand up for them because they want the hand out and there are far too many programs there to give it to them.
    Do you really believe the bull you're spouting? Do you honestly believe everyone is predisposed to the same opportunities, that the circumstances of life is relatively identical to everyone? Because if that's the case we're all either going to be very rich, very poor or live moderate "middle-class" lives.

    The truth is there are people who either luck into situations that provide them a satisfying life (i.e., they inherit income from family, are born into money, win the lotto, or get discovered in sports and entertainment), develop a bright idea into riches, or work harder than others either through laboring or get a high quality education and use same to further their professional career. Very few people have the wherewithall to know exactly what they want to do in life while they're young and are continuously encouraged to pursue their ambitions.

    Furthermore, not everyone has the opportunity to attain wealth. Most people will just have average lives. Most people are afforded an education via the public education system, but that's about as far as many people can afford to go. Even with loans and grants, most high school graduates can't afford to attend college. Most young adults start off in the labor force working a minimum wage job (unless, of course, they luck out and know someone who sees something in them to take a chance and give them an opportunity to better themselves), and if they're lucky or work hard enough they can progress up that economic ladder.

    And then there are those who just can't catch a break with a net! Circumstances befall them and they can never get out of that revolving door of dispair and poverty. Sometimes, they bring things upon themselves; other times things happen beyond their control (i.e., a devastating accident or lost of the primary bread-winner).

    To think that everyone will be exposed to the same or similar opportunities to attain wealth is just foolish. Most people want to do for themselves as opposed to just having things handed to them. Moreover, I seriously doubt people want to be poor. Unfortunately, they either don't know what to do to change the circumstances of their lives in a meaningful way or the opportunities just never come their way.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Look, sockpuppet, he thinks people can't draw SS and a regular retirement at the same time.
    Tell me that isn't a show of ignorance. He has a lot to learn, and so do you.
    PRactically all of my friends of retirement age are getting both. It's the law, has been since before I was born, and I am 64....
    sockpuppet

    getting a bit testy there

    you think others ought to pay more because they can

    you obviously can pay alot more too so put up or STFU



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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Do you really believe the bull you're spouting? Do you honestly believe everyone is predisposed to the same opportunities, that the circumstances of life is relatively identical to everyone? Because if that's the case we're all either going to be very rich, very poor or live moderate "middle-class" lives.

    The truth is there are people who either luck into situations that provide them a satisfying life (i.e., they inherit income from family, are born into money, win the lotto, or get discovered in sports and entertainment), develop a bright idea into riches, or work harder than others either through laboring or get a high quality education and use same to further their professional career. Very few people have the wherewithall to know exactly what they want to do in life while they're young and are continuously encouraged to pursue their ambitions.

    Furthermore, not everyone has the opportunity to attain wealth. Most people will just have average lives. Most people are afforded an education via the public education system, but that's about as far as many people can afford to go. Even with loans and grants, most high school graduates can't afford to attend college. Most young adults start off in the labor force working a minimum wage job (unless, of course, they luck out and know someone who sees something in them to take a chance and give them an opportunity to better themselves), and if they're lucky or work hard enough they can progress up that economic ladder.

    And then there are those who just can't catch a break with a net! Circumstances befall them and they can never get out of that revolving door of dispair and poverty. Sometimes, they bring things upon themselves; other times things happen beyond their control (i.e., a devastating accident or lost of the primary bread-winner).

    To think that everyone will be exposed to the same or similar opportunities to attain wealth is just foolish. Most people want to do for themselves as opposed to just having things handed to them. Moreover, I seriously doubt people want to be poor. Unfortunately, they either don't know what to do to change the circumstances of their lives in a meaningful way or the opportunities just never come their way.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    None of that ****'s going to happen in the current economic environment. And, I'm sure that's by design.

    I'm sure you fellow Libbos are impressed as hell that you're double dipping the way you are.
    Maybe I have it wrong, maybe YOU are the sockpuppet. And I am not double dipping, I am quadruple dipping. 2 civilian jobs, SS, and military.
    And you are eligible for the same, if you want to make the same effort I did.
    None of those rules/laws by which I draw so much retirement have been repealed.
    Funny, you and your roomie TD know so little about the system but have so much to say. You probably listen to Rush Bin Limbaugh and Glenn Beckerhead.
    As for being a libbo, I did vote for Carter, and unless the GOP presents a viable candidate, for a change, I MAY vote for Obama in
    2012...
    Other than that, I always voted republican. For that, I beg forgiveness from the gods. After 4 years of Bush Lite, I knew better to vote for him again, but the DIMS just couldn't put up a good candidate.
    Democrats may tax and spend, but that is preferred to borrow and spend like the GOP. Now,tho, both parties do both. Hardly any difference anymore.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sockpuppet

    getting a bit testy there

    you think others ought to pay more because they can

    you obviously can pay alot more too so put up or STFU
    I have paid a lot. Year before last we had income enough to get into the top tax bracket. Writing those checks was painful....
    So YOU can STFU, stop your whining, be grateful you have a good job, and pay your taxes.....like a good little girl...
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Do you really believe the bull you're spouting? Do you honestly believe everyone is predisposed to the same opportunities, that the circumstances of life is relatively identical to everyone? Because if that's the case we're all either going to be very rich, very poor or live moderate "middle-class" lives.

    The truth is there are people who either luck into situations that provide them a satisfying life (i.e., they inherit income from family, are born into money, win the lotto, or get discovered in sports and entertainment), develop a bright idea into riches, or work harder than others either through laboring or get a high quality education and use same to further their professional career. Very few people have the wherewithall to know exactly what they want to do in life while they're young and are continuously encouraged to pursue their ambitions.

    Furthermore, not everyone has the opportunity to attain wealth. Most people will just have average lives. Most people are afforded an education via the public education system, but that's about as far as many people can afford to go. Even with loans and grants, most high school graduates can't afford to attend college. Most young adults start off in the labor force working a minimum wage job (unless, of course, they luck out and know someone who sees something in them to take a chance and give them an opportunity to better themselves), and if they're lucky or work hard enough they can progress up that economic ladder.

    And then there are those who just can't catch a break with a net! Circumstances befall them and they can never get out of that revolving door of dispair and poverty. Sometimes, they bring things upon themselves; other times things happen beyond their control (i.e., a devastating accident or lost of the primary bread-winner).

    To think that everyone will be exposed to the same or similar opportunities to attain wealth is just foolish. Most people want to do for themselves as opposed to just having things handed to them. Moreover, I seriously doubt people want to be poor. Unfortunately, they either don't know what to do to change the circumstances of their lives in a meaningful way or the opportunities just never come their way.
    I said nothing about everyone being born with the same opportunities. Point of fact many spoiled rich kids die from suicide because they also FAILED. They end up in rehab because rich mommy and daddy pampered them and then the real world kicked them right square in the mouth. Birth into a rich home is no predictor of success. Hard work is.

    Im the first person in my family to graduate from high school. My father went through wives like babysitters. I never knew my mother. I went through multiple instances of abuse. Education was never stressed nor emphasized. I bounced around from home to home most of my early years. I wasnt what you would call primed for success. I vowed my family wouldnt go through that. I vowed my kids wouldnt. I worked my ass off 2 and 3 jobs AND went to school. I sat in night and weekend classes with others committed to changing their futures.

    Do I believe it? Hell yes. I lived it and I see others living it daily.

    You fail...blame yourself. Period. Quit whining and bitching about how unfair life is and CHANGE YOURS...stop being so damn pathetic and envious of others.
    Last edited by VanceMack; 09-29-10 at 11:16 PM.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Maybe I have it wrong, maybe YOU are the sockpuppet. And I am not double dipping, I am quadruple dipping. 2 civilian jobs, SS, and military.
    And you are eligible for the same, if you want to make the same effort I did.
    None of those rules/laws by which I draw so much retirement have been repealed.
    Funny, you and your roomie TD know so little about the system but have so much to say. You probably listen to Rush Bin Limbaugh and Glenn Beckerhead.
    As for being a libbo, I did vote for Carter, and unless the GOP presents a viable candidate, for a change, I MAY vote for Obama in
    2012...
    Other than that, I always voted republican. For that, I beg forgiveness from the gods. After 4 years of Bush Lite, I knew better to vote for him again, but the DIMS just couldn't put up a good candidate.
    Democrats may tax and spend, but that is preferred to borrow and spend like the GOP. Now,tho, both parties do both. Hardly any difference anymore.
    The Libbos are really going to hate your ass.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how dare he not boost the national deficit so that tax breaks can be given to billionaires [/s]
    You assume somehow he ISNT boosting the annual deficit? You assume he would be somehow fiscally responsible if he could just take MORE of other peoples income?

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Here's the OP:



    How on earth did I "derail the thread to talk about taxes" when the OP is about taxes?
    Clearly this was the doing of those dastardly Koch brothers.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I have paid a lot. Year before last we had income enough to get into the top tax bracket. Writing those checks was painful....
    So YOU can STFU, stop your whining, be grateful you have a good job, and pay your taxes.....like a good little girl...
    LOL-6-1, 230, I'd make one butt ugly little girl. Might pass for a soviet lady shotputter circa 1975 though-except they probably were better hung than most of the guys on this board



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