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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Our "poor" are rich compared to other countries, and some of the working poor need to get realistic with their spending.
    I agree with this. I think all of our bleeding hearts in this country need to spend a month or two in the Turd World. Our "poor" people live like kings compared to the poor of the Turd World.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Must've had to steal from a lot of poor people to accomplish that!
    Navy retirement and social security make up most of mine. In addition I get about $600 per month from my civilian retirements.
    Wife has teacher retirement and social security. plus some incentive money to retire early, that part goes away in a few years..
    Adds up to a bit over $115K per year. Plus for 30 years we saved/invested a lot of money so we wouldn't retire poor like our parents did.
    We prepared for our retirement, none of it was stolen....
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Our "poor" are rich compared to other countries, and some of the working poor need to get realistic with their spending.
    I know SOME poor and SOME working poor who are didn't get that way because of wasting their money, stuff happens and not everyone is prepared for that stuff, usually illness stuff. BUT, I know more than a few "poor" who have multiple cell phones in the family, cable TV, internet, and go out to dinner too often, and THEN say they can't afford to buy health insurance. The govt does juggle the numbers when determining who is poor. I was "poor" when in the navy as a married E5, but never got assistance of any kind, and never got excused from paying taxes.
    All that aside, why should the rich be excused from paying taxes. A few more percentage points isn't going to kill them, despite all the whining on DP from those making over $250K....
    WTF do you get off saying "a few percentage points won't hurt them"? YOu have no idea what you are talking about. My kid goes to an expensive school I can afford it but I know several parents who have tons of student loans and a few kids who cannot afford a 30-40K increase in their federal income taxes which can easily occur especially if you have investment income. if you are paying 250K a year in taxes and half your income is capital gains or dividends you can easily face 50K more in taxes next year.

    If you were like my late mother, all of her income came from dividends meaning your taxes would go from 15% on your next dollar to 40%



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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Navy retirement and social security make up most of mine. In addition I get about $600 per month from my civilian retirements.
    Wife has teacher retirement and social security.
    Adds up to a bit over $115K per year. Plus for 30 years we saved/invested a lot of money so we wouldn't retire poor like our parents did.
    Tell me what part of that was stolen....
    Sounds to me like you're exploiting the system like a mutha'.

    I wasn't aware that people could draw SS and retirement pensions. Sounds like bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllll****. That, or you're defrauding the government. Someone probably needs to look into what you're doing.

    Ultimately, I see why you support more taxation. So you can make sure your meal ticket keeps coming in.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I agree with this. I think all of our bleeding hearts in this country need to spend a month or two in the Turd World. Our "poor" people live like kings compared to the poor of the Turd World.
    I learned that when I flew into Cali Columbia (a modern airport built to host the pan am games) and saw people living in shanties right next to the runways



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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Navy retirement and social security make up most of mine. In addition I get about $600 per month from my civilian retirements.
    Wife has teacher retirement and social security. plus some incentive money to retire early, that part goes away in a few years..
    Adds up to a bit over $115K per year. Plus for 30 years we saved/invested a lot of money so we wouldn't retire poor like our parents did.
    Tell me what part of that was stolen....
    I was being facetious when I posted that. Maybe we'll get some people that aren't to explain why they think successful people stole what they have.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I was being facetious when I posted that. Maybe we'll get some people that aren't to explain why they think successful people stole what they have.
    Like that's gonna happen...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

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    Like that's gonna happen...
    Yeah, that's why there is the IRS. None of them has the balls to look you in the eye when they steal your money.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A six figure retirement income? LOL...you ****ed someone to get that.

    Sounds to me like you made your fortune, in our capitalist society, but now you don't want to let any of the rest of us to do the same.

    If you walked out of an audit in only a few minutes, then I think you're not being honest about being audited. For every dollar the IRS spends on an audit, they recover nine dollars. The statictics aren't in favor of you producing a few receipts and walking out in just a few minutes. Hell, it take an IRS rapist an hour+ just to look at everything.
    again you accuse me of lying....are you really that stupid? When you have rental property and you deduct expenses, they expect you to have receipts, and WE DID, so audit was over in a short time. They were prepared, so were we. It is that simple.
    I take it you have been audited and it didn't go well, too bad, too sad. I spent one tax season doing returns for people, and a few of my clients wanted to deduct expenses they couldn't prove.
    I don't know what you are doing for a living, but it sounds like you want it all, and right now. It took us 30 years to accumulate our 'wealth'....
    How old are you? If you want some financial advice, I can give it. Problem is, most people won't take it. They want to live very well now, and very well later, and it takes a lot of income to do both...
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Yeah, that's why there is the IRS. None of them has the balls to look you in the eye when they steal your money.
    Hell, the IRS doesn't either. They steal your money electronically, now
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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