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Census finds record gap between rich and poor

The main cause of, "poor", is a lack of motivation. Anyone that isn't motivated enough to make it without an education, isn't going to motivated enough to make it with and education, or even put out enough to get and education.

An education exposes you to more opportunities, more doors are open for you. Are you saying that your job requires little education? Is your job manual labor and dangerous? Want to do that til you are 67 years old?
College grads make more than tech school grads, who make more than High School grads, who make more than dropouts.
Not always, but most of the time. The govt says so....
 
I remember calling my late father up many many years ago and telling him I just got an acceptance letter from a prestigious university and he said good

but don't ever confuse being well educated with having common sense

Don't get me wrong. There's nothing at all wrong with getting an education. What I am saying, is that it's not a guarantee of anything. At the end of the day, the guys who busted their asses the most and made the best decisions are the ones that will see the most success.
 
I have asked and everything that I've heard indicates that you're either lieing, or ripping off the government.

Who did you ask? somebody who knows even less than you? Google will explain it to you, if you know how to search...
 
I have asked and everything that I've heard indicates that you're either lieing, or ripping off the government.

Turn me in, tell them UtahBill on DP is a crook. They can easily find out who I am. There may be a reward in it for you....:2razz:
 
An education exposes you to more opportunities, more doors are open for you. Are you saying that your job requires little education? Is your job manual labor and dangerous? Want to do that til you are 67 years old?
College grads make more than tech school grads, who make more than High School grads, who make more than dropouts.
Not always, but most of the time. The govt says so....

This is true, which is why I have a masters and a doctorate:mrgreen: I also note that some groups sit back and bash education while other groups embrace it. I never met a Jewish or Chinese kid who was ridiculed for making the honor role or called "Uncle Tom" or "acting white" for graduating valedictorian.
 
Turn me in, tell them UtahBill on DP is a crook. They can easily find out who I am. There may be a reward in it for you....:2razz:

Be afraid be very afraid. Big brother is watching you:mrgreen::mrgreen:
 
Yes, I have and 90% of the poor folks I've seen are poor, because of the choices they made in life. Most of that 90% made the choice to be a buncha ****-offs all their lives and/or sit on the porch waiting for the mail man to bring that big payoff.

I'm not educated. In fact, numerous people on this forume have claimed that I'm stupid as hell--refer to Moot's ast post. One member even went so far as to say that that I'm, "An embarressment to all black people with an IQ above 75", and I seem to have gone out in the world and done fairly good for myself. Now, if someone as dumb as myself can make it, what the **** is everyone else's excuse?
How young are you? Concerning your post, I agree, most of the poor make wrong choices, as half of my siblings have. These kind of people have one thing in common, they are way too stubborn to listen to smarter people. You say you are "making" it....but you haven't MADE it yet, not til you retire with enough money to enjoy your retirement years. Here is something else you might call me a liar about, I retired at age 57, that is 7 years ago....didn't plan on it, just lost my job. But I had money put aside, the house paid for, and a wife that made good money.
THAT, by the way, should be part of every man's retirement plan, have a smart wife with a good job.:2razz:
 
An education exposes you to more opportunities, more doors are open for you.

Are you saying that your job requires little education? Is your job manual labor and dangerous? Want to do that til you are 67 years old?
College grads make more than tech school grads, who make more than High School grads, who make more than dropouts.
Not always, but most of the time. The govt says so....

My ex-wife is a board certified social worker--with a master's degree--my wife is a software engineer, my best friend is a school teacher and I make anywhere from double, to triple their salaries. One of my wife's friends is a meterologist and has been delivering pizzas for Dominoes for more than two years now, because he can't find a job. So, again, a degree and a guarantee of a job and success are totally different animals.
 
How young are you? Concerning your post, I agree, most of the poor make wrong choices, as half of my siblings have. These kind of people have one thing in common, they are way too stubborn to listen to smarter people. You say you are "making" it....but you haven't MADE it yet, not til you retire with enough money to enjoy your retirement years. Here is something else you might call me a liar about, I retired at age 57, that is 7 years ago....didn't plan on it, just lost my job. But I had money put aside, the house paid for, and a wife that made good money.
THAT, by the way, should be part of every man's retirement plan, have a smart wife with a good job.:2razz:

That's awesome. I'm happy for you. I really am. And, if you're getting away with stiffing Uncle Sam, I support that 100%. Only in a capitalist free market society could you do that.

Me? I'll work until I die. I enjoy working and getting dirty, on my terms, not someone else's. There's no feeling in the world like dealing with my headaches, pains in the ass and bull****, vs. dealing with someone else's.
 
My ex-wife is a board certified social worker--with a master's degree--my wife is a software engineer, my best friend is a school teacher and I make anywhere from double, to triple their salaries. One of my wife's friends is a meterologist and has been delivering pizzas for Dominoes for more than two years now, because he can't find a job. So, again, a degree and a guarantee of a job and success are totally different animals.
Your small sample doesn't scale up very well. On average, the more education you have, the better your life will be.
What exactly do you do? Is it dangerous and physically demanding? Can you do that when you are old, like over 50? Are you doing it now? Or is the drilling moratorium keeping you from working?.
For many years I made more than my wife. I was an instrument technician, metrology tech, and reactor operator. All good paying jobs, but I topped out early and subsequent pay raises were minimal. Her pay, tho, kept going up, and surpassed mine. Now, her retirement is twice mine, so when I say we have a 6 figure retirement, 2/3 of it is hers...
Together we make about $120,000 per year, and that may go up soon. If my VA disability comes through, I will be making a lot more, and disability pay is TAX FREE.
 
Ok, glad we got that cleared up. It's proven: I didn't call him a Marxist, only that his comments resembled those made by Karl Marx. Looks like I'm not the only poor lad that is confused. Eh?


Like I said now the” Now the wiggling starts eh “ What were you inferring/implying with the
(That almost sounds like something that Karl Maex would say) statement

To UtahBills sentence
Think of it as dues paid for the privilege of living in such a nice country, with real opportunities for anyone willing to do their share of the work on the road to success.
:confused:
 
Your small sample doesn't scale up very well. On average, the more education you have, the better your life will be.
What exactly do you do? Is it dangerous and physically demanding? Can you do that when you are old, like over 50? Are you doing it now? Or is the drilling moratorium keeping you from working?.
For many years I made more than my wife. I was an instrument technician, metrology tech, and reactor operator. All good paying jobs, but I topped out early and subsequent pay raises were minimal. Her pay, tho, kept going up, and surpassed mine. Now, her retirement is twice mine, so when I say we have a 6 figure retirement, 2/3 of it is hers...
Together we make about $120,000 per year, and that may go up soon. If my VA disability comes through, I will be making a lot more, and disability pay is TAX FREE.

What does one have to do to get that education? Work one's ass off, right? Hello?!?
 
That's awesome. I'm happy for you. I really am. And, if you're getting away with stiffing Uncle Sam, I support that 100%. Only in a capitalist free market society could you do that.

Me? I'll work until I die. I enjoy working and getting dirty, on my terms, not someone else's. There's no feeling in the world like dealing with my headaches, pains in the ass and bull****, vs. dealing with someone else's.

Sorry to hear your aims in life are so low....work is honorable, but you can't depend on always being able to do it. Hell, my grandmother told me when I was 12 to get an education because my body won't ever support me. I was a skinny, short, runt. I did manage to grow some after high school, up to 5' 10", but was still skinny as a rail. She was right, I wasn't about to make money with my body. And you shouldn't depend on it either. I have a relative who screwed up his knees while still in high school, and now that he is 60, he really suffers. That can happen to any one at any time.
At the least, make sure you have good disability insurance. Stuff happens, and it is always unexpected...
 
Like I said now the” Now the wiggling starts eh “ What were you inferring/implying with the

To UtahBills sentence :confused:

But, I didn't, "call him a Marxist", correct? I only said that his comments were Marxist-esque. Still confused, laddy?
 
What does one have to do to get that education? Work one's ass off, right? Hello?!?

yes, and a friend said it this way (to a bunch of teenagers, one was my son), you can work hard for 4 years getting an education that makes your life easier, or you can work hard the rest of your life while regretting not getting that education. I am not saying that college is for everybody, you can do just as well with good technical training. I got mine in the navy....
 
What does one have to do to get that education? Work one's ass off, right? Hello?!?

yes, and a friend said it this way (to a bunch of teenagers, one was my son), you can work hard for 4 years getting an education that makes your life easier, or you can work hard the rest of your life while regretting not getting that education. I am not saying that college is for everybody, you can do just as well with good technical training. I got mine in the navy....:peace
 
But, I didn't, "call him a Marxist", correct? I only said that his comments were Marxist-esque. Still confused, laddy?

and when you say that "his comments were Marxist-esque " is inferring/implying what?
 
Sorry to hear your aims in life are so low....work is honorable, but you can't depend on always being able to do it. Hell, my grandmother told me when I was 12 to get an education because my body won't ever support me. I was a skinny, short, runt. I did manage to grow some after high school, up to 5' 10", but was still skinny as a rail. She was right, I wasn't about to make money with my body. And you shouldn't depend on it either. I have a relative who screwed up his knees while still in high school, and now that he is 60, he really suffers. That can happen to any one at any time.
At the least, make sure you have good disability insurance. Stuff happens, and it is always unexpected...

My dad died on May 10th. That was a Monday. He was at work Friday. He was 75. My grandfather died on his tractor one fall morning, while we were trying to up-root a stump back in 1979. He was 76. My g-grandfather came home from work, ate supper, took a bath, went to bed and was gone before the sun came up. He was 74. It's a family tradition. I come from a family of hard workin' self employed folks that always had the inate ability to what we had to do.

Ultimately, I've made my decisions and I'm the one that has to live with them. cum, ****, or bleed. And, I don't want the government getting up in my ****.
 
yes, and a friend said it this way (to a bunch of teenagers, one was my son), you can work hard for 4 years getting an education that makes your life easier, or you can work hard the rest of your life while regretting not getting that education. I am not saying that college is for everybody, you can do just as well with good technical training. I got mine in the navy....:peace

But, that's not the rule, nor is it any kind of guarantee. That's my point. At the end of the day, no employer is going to come to you. You have to go find the employer and simply walking in and dropping off a resume doesn't cut it.

A dude emailed me a resume last week; an impressive resume, at that. I emailed him back and said that if that was a display of his gumption, then he's not what I'm looking for.
 
and when you say that "his comments were Marxist-esque " is inferring/implying what?

Do you know what, "esque", means, good buddy?
 
Do you know what, "esque", means, good buddy?



Sure do, now were getting somewhere. So you’re saying that UtahBill has the following qualities “indicating style, manner, resemblance, or distinctive character” to “Karl Maex”? :mrgreen:

Esque | Define Esque at Dictionary.com

Believe me, I don’t enjoy seeing you wiggle and squirm likes this apdst but it is for the good of DP that I put you thru this. Some of our newer members might have not seen what a dishonest poster you are. Now they can see for themselves. :2wave:
 
Sure do, now were getting somewhere. So you’re saying that UtahBill has the following qualities “indicating style, manner, resemblance, or distinctive character” to “Karl Maex”? :mrgreen:

Esque | Define Esque at Dictionary.com

Believe me, I don’t enjoy seeing you wiggle and squirm likes this apdst but it is for the good of DP that I put you thru this. Some of our newer members might have not seen what a dishonest poster you are. Now they can see for themselves. :2wave:

Is this really the extint of your contribution to this thread? Because, if you think I give a crap what you think about my posts, good buddy, you're certainly wasting your time.
 
Is this really the extint of your contribution to this thread? Because, if you think I give a crap what you think about my posts, good buddy, you're certainly wasting your time.

Still awaiting an answer to this.

So you’re saying that UtahBill has the following qualities “indicating style, manner, resemblance, or distinctive character” to “Karl Maex”? :2wave:
 
Still awaiting an answer to this.

So you’re saying that UtahBill has the following qualities “indicating style, manner, resemblance, or distinctive character” to “Karl Maex”? :2wave:

So, now you're going to pick on my spelling? Is this your idea of, "contribution to the discussion", good buddy?
 
So, now you're going to pick on my spelling? Is this your idea of, "contribution to the discussion", good buddy?

he called it
said you would squirm and wiggle
nailed you on your karl marx comparison you insisted was not made
and you now squirm and wiggle

explain it ... or admit you made an inaccurate comparison
but quit denying the obvious
 
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