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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    My apologies, it was Moot who was going on about slavery, you were just claiming that the rich were "stealing sweat equity." Substitute that for "slavery" in my previous post and every point still stands.
    Uh...stealing sweat equity is not the same as slavery. Try again.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That's not what I'm saying. Let me put it in graph form for ya.

    Me: "Here's the actual hard data from the IRS"
    You: "Well, my info from Citizens for Tax Justice says something different!"
    Me: "I truly don't give a **** what some partisan advocacy group says, here's the actual IRS data"
    You: "Look, let me copy paste a graph from the same document I just linked you to."

    Still not convincing.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Uh...stealing sweat equity is not the same as slavery. Try again.
    I pretty clearly just acknowledged that they weren't. The point is that your argument is still wrong, as the existence of a free market =/= "stealing sweat equity."
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Me: "Here's the actual hard data from the IRS"
    You: "Well, my info from Citizens for Tax Justice says something different!"
    Me: "I truly don't give a **** what some partisan advocacy group says, here's the actual IRS data"
    You: "Look, let me copy paste a graph from the same document I just linked you to."

    Still not convincing.
    Okay, let me put it this way for you.

    My Data: Taxes include all federal, state & local taxes (personal and corporate income, payroll, property, sales, excise,
    estate etc.).

    Your Data: Federal income taxes.

    Get it?

    I guess I wasn't too clear.
    Last edited by CriticalThought; 09-29-10 at 01:36 AM.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I pretty clearly just acknowledged that they weren't. The point is that your argument is still wrong, as the existence of a free market =/= "stealing sweat equity."
    Dude, I'm all for a free market. This bull**** we have now is nowhere near a free market. The wealthiest Americans are using the government to keep the wage gap wide and to keep wages low.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    A lot more fair and responsible than Wall Steet has proven to be.
    fair and responsible govt

    LOL!

    sure, just like the dmv

    why did the party punt?

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I don't know how "Citizens for Tax Justice" is calculating their numbers, but the actual IRS data says they're full of ****.

    The Tax Foundation - Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data

    Average federal income tax rates as a percentage of AGI:

    Top 1%: 22.45%
    Top 1-5%: 20.53%
    Top 6-10%: 12.66%
    Top 11-25%: 9.43%
    Top 26-50%: 7.01%
    Bottom 50%: 2.99%
    Lets put it this way. If there were 100 peole and $100 to share what would this look like.

    One person would get $23 the other ninty nine would fight over the rest of the $77. The bottom 20 fight over about $3.

    When we have to pay the bills:

    That top guy pays a lot. About 23% or $5. The bottom 20, who only have $3 to start with only pay about seven or eight cents. The top guy is still left with $18. Thats more than six times what the bottom 20 started out with.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Wow. I am so very shocked. NOT
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Lets put it this way. If there were 100 peole and $100 to share...
    whose money are we all sharing?

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    whose money are we all sharing?
    Yours of course.

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