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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Yeah, like your details that Tax Cuts increase revenue! Bwahaha! I guess you forgot your own data proved you wrong?
    Obviously, it is you who are at fault. When Conservative posts data that he says shows that 1 + 1 = 3, he has a damn good reason and you should just accept it as fact rather than challenge the wisdom of his analysis.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Yeah, like your details that Tax Cuts increase revenue! Bwahaha! I guess you forgot your own data proved you wrong?
    You nuts? Tax rate cuts did increase govt. revenue as the U.S. Treasury shows. Also GDP growth and unemployment numbers between 2003-2007 refute the liberal rhetoric

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Zip, rather than take up more space on this thread I will simply reply to your post with a couple comments. First I will compare my record to yours any day and I will take the conservative agenda over the liberal agenda any day. Second, I moved to TX in 1992 and I will take the economy here any day over what you have in the state of Washington. Third, to continue this thread is a waste of time, you write a novel and I write a novel and neither of us or anyone else reads it.

    Facts have a mysterious way of changing in the liberal world. We will see today which way the majority are going to decide. Other than that we must agree to disagree. there is absolutely nothing about that liberal agenda that has been successful.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Zip, rather than take up more space on this thread I will simply reply to your post with a couple comments. First I will compare my record to yours any day and I will take the conservative agenda over the liberal agenda any day. Second, I moved to TX in 1992 and I will take the economy here any day over what you have in the state of Washington. Third, to continue this thread is a waste of time, you write a novel and I write a novel and neither of us or anyone else reads it.

    Facts have a mysterious way of changing in the liberal world. We will see today which way the majority are going to decide. Other than that we must agree to disagree. there is absolutely nothing about that liberal agenda that has been successful.
    Finally, you post something that has some facts. We do disagree about the success of the liberal (actually, progressive agenda), and the success of the Bush agenda.

    We weren't debating your record, or mine, we were debating your assertions about all kinds of stuff. Your record doesn't make you right when you aren't. When you want to compare records, I'm ready. Want to compare patent portfolios... net worth... what?

    Also, the facts are the facts, even for liberals. What they can do is change their mind when new data is available rather than to stick with preconceived notions.

    I suspect that Republicans will do quite nicely today. It happens. The only regret is that, in the case of the Senate, we will have to live with any mistakes for 6 years. Then again, we've had worse and survived.

    Now, if you are serious about dropping this, you will not reply. I am familiar with the tactic of saying that the thread should be dropped and then dropping in some final insult, hoping to get the last word.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    there is absolutely nothing about that liberal agenda that has been successful.
    Exactly. Southerners called Abe a liberal during the Civil War, so libs try to take credit for that, but you know what? Slavery would have eventually ended anyway in sometime during the 20th century because of the industrial revolution. And as for the civil rights movement, that was simply another example of the federal government exerting its power over states rights. All liberals have ever done is taken the right away from states to govern ourselves.

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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by McCain2012 View Post
    Exactly. Southerners called Abe a liberal during the Civil War, so libs try to take credit for that, but you know what? Slavery would have eventually ended anyway in sometime during the 20th century because of the industrial revolution. And as for the civil rights movement, that was simply another example of the federal government exerting its power over states rights. All liberals have ever done is taken the right away from states to govern ourselves.
    This is pretty funny. Good use of sarcasm. However, you really should use an emoticon to let folks know that this is tongue-in-cheek.

    You can also add that to this list, that the Progressive agenda was responsible for ending child labor but that would have happened anyway because... I need some help here. They also put a stop to large monopolies that were stifling competition, but that would have happened anyway because... damn, I'm not very good at this. Help me out, will you? I could try to go on but I'm just not so good at coming up with these humorous dismissals of liberal accomplishments as you, so I'll leave it to the experts.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by zip98053 View Post
    This is pretty funny. Good use of sarcasm. However, you really should use an emoticon to let folks know that this is tongue-in-cheek.

    You can also add that to this list, that the Progressive agenda was responsible for ending child labor but that would have happened anyway because... I need some help here. They also put a stop to large monopolies that were stifling competition, but that would have happened anyway because... damn, I'm not very good at this. Help me out, will you? I could try to go on but I'm just not so good at coming up with these humorous dismissals of liberal accomplishments as you, so I'll leave it to the experts.
    what "progressive" issues do the libs push these days

    lets see-class warfare

    whining about the rich

    trying to infect more and more private sector areas with governmental control

    the American left is reactionary, parasitic and statist in that its solution to everything is more government control, more government confiscation of private wealth and more income redistribution



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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what "progressive" issues do the libs push these days

    lets see-class warfare

    whining about the rich

    trying to infect more and more private sector areas with governmental control

    the American left is reactionary, parasitic and statist in that its solution to everything is more government control, more government confiscation of private wealth and more income redistribution
    Hell, even Warren Buffet says that there is a class war going on, and his side (the rich folks) are winning. Do you see Warren Buffet as being a liberal whiner?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/bu...y/26every.html

    Conservatives whine too. They whine about... well, everything. Mostly, that no one else gets it.

    Given what the private sector did with the economy when they were left to look after themselves, I think that a little "infection" is called for. Do you seriously think that they wouldn't do it again if given the chance. The people who caused this disaster made a ton of money and it wasn't because of the bailout that Bush pushed through. The real culprits would have been OK with having their companies go under with the only losers being a) the economy and b) the shareholders who had invested their 401K like we were told to do by conservatives ("sure, privatize SS and dump it all into stocks").

    You evidently don't know what "reactionary" means. You probably think that it means that they just react to things. However, "reactionary" means wanting to return to a previous state, and is used to refer to someone who is extremely conservative. I think that you mean that the left is "radical" which is the opposite of "reactionary". I wish you folks would learn what words mean before you try to hurt someone with them. That way, you wouldn't give the impression that you are an uneducated dolt lacking the ability to determine what anyone stands for and who needs FOX to give them sound-bytes to toss around like they know something.
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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by zip98053 View Post
    Hell, even Warren Buffet says that there is a class war going on, and his side (the rich folks) are winning. Do you see Warren Buffet as being a liberal whiner?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/bu...y/26every.html

    Conservatives whine too. They whine about... well, everything. Mostly, that no one else gets it.

    Given what the private sector did with the economy when they were left to look after themselves, I think that a little "infection" is called for. Do you seriously think that they wouldn't do it again if given the chance. The people who caused this disaster made a ton of money and it wasn't because of the bailout that Bush pushed through. The real culprits would have been OK with having their companies go under with the only losers being a) the economy and b) the shareholders who had invested their 401K like we were told to do by conservatives ("sure, privatize SS and dump it all into stocks").

    You evidently don't know what "reactionary" means. You probably think that it means that they just react to things. However, "reactionary" means wanting to return to a previous state, and is used to refer to someone who is extremely conservative. I think that you mean that the left is "radical" which is the opposite of "reactionary". I wish you folks would learn what words mean before you try to hurt someone with them. That way, you wouldn't give the impression that you are an uneducated dolt lacking the ability to determine what anyone stands for and who needs FOX to give them sound-bytes to toss around like they know something.
    Buffett is a hypocrite and complains about paying lower tax rates (due to the CG tax rate) because he played games and made his earned income abnormally low so as to ingratiate himself with people who feel as you do

    I do know what reactionary means and I really don't think you want to compare resumes



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    Re: Census finds record gap between rich and poor

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Buffett is a hypocrite and complains about paying lower tax rates (due to the CG tax rate) because he played games and made his earned income abnormally low so as to ingratiate himself with people who feel as you do

    I do know what reactionary means and I really don't think you want to compare resumes
    I'm not quite sure how calling Buffett a hypocrite equates to there not being, what is in effect, class warfare. Do you have a superior theory that would account for the survey results that are the topic of this thread? It's not that the difference between the top and the bottom is growing that is at issue, but the evaporation of the middle class that is the real symptom of a problem.

    Since you know what reactionary means, then you know that "the American left is reactionary" is an oxymoronic phrase. Whom are you trying to confuse?

    I'm not that interested about knowing that much about your personal life or background, but a resume smackdown with you doesn't scare me at all.

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