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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And what I said trumps that. It is a short cut term that is used incorrectly and is NOT a diagnosis. My last post stated that, clearly. You are incorrect.
    Used incorrectly by your own source? I got that from the source you directed me to and all it said was that transsexual is an informal term for a certain extreme of gender identity disorder. No matter what you say it clearly includes transsexualism as part of the mental disorder.

    When I find it I will. And I stated that it was secreted, but in limited area where it is then retained.
    You said somatostatin inhibits secretion so that it is retained in the brain. What you are saying now is different and honestly does not make a lot of sense either way because that is just not how it works.

    My sources completely agree with me. When YOUR position is so flimsy that you have to ignore that fact, and make stuff up, it is easy to see why your position is unfounded.
    I am not making anything up here, just going with some common knowledge, at least common knowledge for people who study human behavior. People give signals without even realizing it and it is very difficult if not impossible to avoid giving those signals. People, especially infants, are very adept at interpreting those signals.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Used incorrectly by your own source? I got that from the source you directed me to and all it said was that transsexual is an informal term for a certain extreme of gender identity disorder. No matter what you say it clearly includes transsexualism as part of the mental disorder.
    I will tell you for the THIRD time, the source explained that it is often used as a short cut term to discuss those with GID or GIDNOS. IT IS NOT A DIAGNOSIS NOR A DISORDER. You are absolutely wrong, both as I have shown and as I have said. You do not know what you are talking about and seem to be contrary and misrepresenting just because.



    You said somatostatin inhibits secretion so that it is retained in the brain. What you are saying now is different and honestly does not make a lot of sense either way because that is just not how it works.
    I explained this pretty clearly. It inhibits secretion outside the BSTc, retaining it there.



    I am not making anything up here, just going with some common knowledge, at least common knowledge for people who study human behavior. People give signals without even realizing it and it is very difficult if not impossible to avoid giving those signals. People, especially infants, are very adept at interpreting those signals.
    What you are saying is, as I said, irrelevant. Does this happen? Of course. I would venture to guess that I have studied human behavior a TON more than you. The issue is that research was pretty clear. Speculate all you like. It doesn't match up with what this particular research identified... which trumps any speculation you might have.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I will tell you for the THIRD time, the source explained that it is often used as a short cut term to discuss those with GID or GIDNOS.
    In other words, when they say transsexual they mean someone with the mental disorder. You can say that isn't the proper term, but you are the one insisting transsexualism is not a disorder. If it is just another term used to describe the disorder as your source says then you really aren't making that case.

    I explained this pretty clearly. It inhibits secretion outside the BSTc, retaining it there.
    That just isn't how it works my friend.

    What you are saying is, as I said, irrelevant.
    It is not irrelevant when your source acts like a few months after birth makes for a control on social conditioning.

    I would venture to guess that I have studied human behavior a TON more than you.
    You are probably older than me so I would not really dispute that. Of course, quantity of study is not the same as quality of study. People can spend decades working and studying in a field when someone who has spent only a few years in it makes more progress than any of them.

    The issue is that research was pretty clear. Speculate all you like. It doesn't match up with what this particular research identified... which trumps any speculation you might have.
    It was clear that people with similar mindsets have similar minds. I do not dispute that. What I dispute is the conclusion that this therefore represents a cause and effect relationship. It is an example of the correlation equals causation argument common in sociobiology.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Source: WOOD TV8

    Does this kid have a pussy? Yes. So I am sorry, but there is no homecoming king crown for you little missy. Of course, the ACLU thinks differently. I guess you shouldn't discriminate against people for thinking they are something they are not. So if I think I am a qualified heart surgeon a hospital should allow to me to conduct a triple bypass.
    Let me guess, this is about using another poor kid as a poster child for some agenda, and people are crying "discrimination" everywhere.

    All I have to say is, it's a homecomming title, I'm sure s/he will get over it and move on to more important things in life. To bad I can't say that about the media, though.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    I don't see why he cannot be king. It harms no one, makes him happy. Society actively approves of things far more stupid and harmful.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

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    I don't see why he cannot be king. It harms no one, makes him happy. Society actively approves of things far more stupid and harmful.
    Scary that there are people who think that some lil highschool is an accurate sample of American sociaty that they can make such generalisations.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    In other words, when they say transsexual they mean someone with the mental disorder. You can say that isn't the proper term, but you are the one insisting transsexualism is not a disorder. If it is just another term used to describe the disorder as your source says then you really aren't making that case.
    For the FOURTH time, it is irrelevant whether the term is used incorrectly... which is precisely what my source says. It is not a disorder. I have made my case clearly. You want to reject reality, that is your own business.



    That just isn't how it works my friend.
    Says you.



    It is not irrelevant when your source acts like a few months after birth makes for a control on social conditioning.
    All you have is speculation. I have the information that I presented. Again, if you want to reject reality, that is your business.

    You are probably older than me so I would not really dispute that. Of course, quantity of study is not the same as quality of study. People can spend decades working and studying in a field when someone who has spent only a few years in it makes more progress than any of them.
    I am also certain that the quality of my studies of human behavior is TONS better than yours.

    It was clear that people with similar mindsets have similar minds. I do not dispute that. What I dispute is the conclusion that this therefore represents a cause and effect relationship. It is an example of the correlation equals causation argument common in sociobiology.
    Whether it be causation or correlation, the research presents a pretty clear hypothesis that is proven conclusively. Your speculation, again, is just that and remains unfounded until someone does some research that demonstrates that it was a confound in the research I presented.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Scary that there are people who think that some lil highschool is an accurate sample of American sociaty that they can make such generalisations.
    Well, it is a refection of a segment of American society.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    For the FOURTH time, it is irrelevant whether the term is used incorrectly... which is precisely what my source says. It is not a disorder. I have made my case clearly. You want to reject reality, that is your own business.
    It says the term is an informal term for the disorder, specifically a term used for when the disorder is at a certain stage. Just because transsexual is not the diagnostic term for the disorder does not mean it is not a term for the disorder. Your source says explicitly that it is another term for the disorder. You were arguing that transsexualism is not a disorder, but your own source clearly says that it is a disorder. It only clarifies that the technical term is gender identity disorder, which is something I never questioned.

    Says you.
    Since you are now giving out empty retorts why don't you just go the full monty and respond with "Said the liar"?

    All you have is speculation. I have the information that I presented. Again, if you want to reject reality, that is your business.
    This is not about speculation. Ruling out social conditioning as a factor in this case as the researchers did is simply mistaken.

    Whether it be causation or correlation, the research presents a pretty clear hypothesis that is proven conclusively.
    "Hypothesis" is a good term for it, because that is the scientific equivalent of a guess. Their research is far from proving their hypothesis.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Technocratic View Post
    Well, it is a refection of a segment of American society.
    It's a reflection of one administrator and one administrator only.

    Remember that lesbian couple a few months ago who were told that they couldn't show up to their prom as a couple or dress in pants suits? Then as now, the student body was accepting of them. Then as now, it was one administrator clinging to a technicality to get their way.

    This incident does not reflect America. America is accepting of gays, lesbians, transexuals, etc.

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