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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    From your own study

    Some scientists cautioned that the estrogen treatment the transsexuals took as part of their sex-change therapy might have affected the size of their hypothalamus;



    In short, they don't know and can't prove it. Thanks for playing.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, that's only one definition. Gender isn't limited to just one's sex.
    Love it when libs try to redefine a word.

    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

    Thats the defition. Time to deal with the reality of it.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    According to the link you posted above, the average gender reassignment surgery costs ~$20,000 all in. Would a person really go through more than $20,000 of medicine over their lifetime?

    I'm not being critical because I don't have any idea how much and what kind of medicine treatment would require. It just strikes me as being rather expensive.
    Considering some medication costs people a couple hundred bucks for a 30 day supply, yes. If the medication costs $100 a month it would take less than 20 years to reach that amount. Add along with that that these people would now most likely have to see a therapist at least once a year (probably more often, if we are considering it a mental disorder).

    Plus, many transgendered people now do not go through with the surgery, and there are some that wish they could "cure" themselves. Those that would want to cure themselves would be more likely to take the medication than even consider the surgery. And there are some things that could still be covered without the surgery, including the therapy. It is also possible, that like many other mental disorders, there would be more than one medication required.

    I don't actually believe that someone would ever really be able to come up with a medication that truly "cured" a transgendered person, but I don't think that it is fair to act like giving them the option of surgery covered by insurance would raise the cost of someone's insurance premiums. There are plenty of things out there that raise insurance premiums significantly more than this ever would.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Love it when libs try to redefine a word.

    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

    Thats the defition. Time to deal with the reality of it.
    The defintion says ONE sex, not ONE'S sex. That is the difference Boo Radley is referring to.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Love it when libs try to redefine a word.

    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

    Thats the defition. Time to deal with the reality of it.
    The reality is that if someone behaves as a woman, is culturally recognized as being a woman, or has psychological traits of a woman but they were born male, then their gender is female according to that definition.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    If the government got out of healthcare the cost would go down. Healthcare is expensive because the government allows them to nickle and dime the populance as lobbyists pay off politicians.

    A trued free market would allow competition to bring prices down.

    A good example is laser eye surgery. Prices have gone down.
    the price of laser surgery has gone down because more doctors perform it.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    According to the link you posted above, the average gender reassignment surgery costs ~$20,000 all in. Would a person really go through more than $20,000 of medicine over their lifetime?

    I'm not being critical because I don't have any idea how much and what kind of medicine treatment would require. It just strikes me as being rather expensive.
    it's impossible to say until they actually find a cure and discover how much it cots to produce and distribute. Given that there might not even BE a "cure" this would all be purely speculative. But let's say it just costs you $5 for a months supply. Over the course of 50 years that's 600 at $5 per month coming to a grand total of $3000. That's is basically your best of the best case scenarios. More then likely you will see something closer (at least from what I've seen with psychoactive medicines) to $30 - $50 for a weeks supply. That comes to a grand total of $72,000 for $30 a week. Once again purely speculative. But it can get up to a higher cost then surgery depending on the pills, and depending on your insurance of course.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Considering some medication costs people a couple hundred bucks for a 30 day supply, yes. If the medication costs $100 a month it would take less than 20 years to reach that amount. Add along with that that these people would now most likely have to see a therapist at least once a year (probably more often, if we are considering it a mental disorder).

    Plus, many transgendered people now do not go through with the surgery, and there are some that wish they could "cure" themselves. Those that would want to cure themselves would be more likely to take the medication than even consider the surgery. And there are some things that could still be covered without the surgery, including the therapy. It is also possible, that like many other mental disorders, there would be more than one medication required.

    I don't actually believe that someone would ever really be able to come up with a medication that truly "cured" a transgendered person, but I don't think that it is fair to act like giving them the option of surgery covered by insurance would raise the cost of someone's insurance premiums. There are plenty of things out there that raise insurance premiums significantly more than this ever would.
    I know bringing that up is a bit off topic but so many people have thought the same thing as you have, that adding a specific coverage won't raise the prices much.
    When you do that for 100 procedures, it really starts to add up.

    We cover pregnancy under insurance, that's insane.
    It is a voluntary "illness."
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm just concerned that we may be ignoring other avenues in treatment.

    What if it is just a mental disorder, meaning that it could be treated successfully with medication.
    I think more research is needed before we dive in to surgical correction.
    i think that's why it takes so long to qualify for the surgery, they are not just diving into it......it takes a couple of years for evaluation.

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