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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If the school does not meddle then the kids grow up to be morons who think its okay for Jean to be Jenny, Johnny to be a duck or Vicky to be Vincent and then force the rest of society to play along with this fantasy by letting state legally recognize someone as something they are not.
    It is OK. The pursuit of happiness means Jenny can become John as long as Jenny doesn't interfer with Bob or Mary to do so. And if Jenny has to live with this condition, and the best we can do is help Jenny become more comfortable, who are we to deny Jenny this? Seriously, it is enough for us to take care of ourselfs and try to make the world a little better without worrying about Jenny becoming John.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I accept them, too. I shop at a store called Transformations in Arlington Heights, IL that's owned by a transgendered young man. Love 'im. That has absolutely nothing to do with electing a girl to a boy's title. What is so hard to understand about that?

    Should we allow a man who believes he suffers this transgender disorder to play professional women's tennis? Professional women's golf? He's still a man. Playing against women. Just doesn't track. Would never happen. Take the hormones. Have the surgery. Then we've got a deal. THEN they're transgendered. Not before.
    I personally accept people who are like this but I do have some reservations about it.

    There is nothing conclusive about this not being a mental disorder that may be treatable with medication. (something to correct the mental gender imbalance towards the physical gender.)

    Instead we insist catastrophic change to the body.
    To me, that seems a bit extreme and I think we should approach this with great caution.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Kind of foolish to sit there and say were not talking about sex were talking about gender when gender is defined as sex.
    Again, that's only one definition. Gender isn't limited to just one's sex.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    BTW, all those comparing people who think they are animals to transgendered, these arguments are no more genuine than those arguments that try to place same sex marriage along the lines of marrying an animal. A person doesn't just get a brain injury or lose their mind, and decide that they want to be the different sex. And from what I know of my family, I'm pretty sure transgendered people are born that way and it is at least somewhat genetic. Transgendered people don't have an unrealistic belief that they are a different species or can do impossible feats that can get them hurt, they just feel like they are the other gender of our own species from what they were born. Some are heterosexual and some are homosexual, there are probably even some bisexuals out there.

    a person who thinks they are an animal has a mental dysfunction. a man that thinks he is a woman has a mental dysfunction.

    still waiting for someone to show convincing evidence that transgender disorder has a physical basis.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you mean like the acceptance that a fetus gets of the human that it will become?
    That's another isuue, and you should know I'm Catholic. Me and mine don't have abortions.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post

    Instead we insist catastrophic change to the body.
    To me, that seems a bit extreme and I think we should approach this with great caution.
    "We" insist nothing the change is up to the indvidual.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    That makes about as much sense as "schizophrenics were simply born in the wrong reality."

    What we've got is a girl who thinks she's a guy. It's a mental disorder.
    Read the rest of my posts to the thread before you open your piehole. Thanks.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    a person who thinks they are an animal has a mental dysfunction. a man that thinks he is a woman has a mental dysfunction.

    still waiting for someone to show convincing evidence that transgender disorder has a physical basis.
    They used to think PMS was all in our heads too. And Fibromyalgia. And migraines. Just because a physical basis hasn't been identified yet (IF it hasn't... I don't know and frankly don't care), doesn't mean that one doesn't exist.

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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    "We" insist nothing the change is up to the indvidual.
    Yea I understand that but that is the course of action, most often taken.

    Other people with personality disorders, aren't encouraged to live as those personalities but are instead medicated to rid themselves of it.
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    Re: Transgender senior can't be king

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I accept them, too. I shop at a store called Transformations in Arlington Heights, IL that's owned by a transgendered young man. Love 'im. That has absolutely nothing to do with electing a girl to a boy's title. What is so hard to understand about that?

    Should we allow a man who believes he suffers this transgender disorder to play professional women's tennis? Professional women's golf? He's still a man. Playing against women. Just doesn't track. Would never happen. Take the hormones. Have the surgery. Then we've got a deal. THEN they're transgendered. Not before.
    Personally, I don't care if we did or not, because I really don't care that much about sports. I don't think it would ever happen just because of the physical advantage, which is an understandable exception. But even with gender reassignment, I don't think the rules allow for this scenario.

    However, in the case of a contest for homecoming king, there is no actual physical activity requirement. The only competition aspect is of popularity. The rest of the school obviously believed that he qualified, so this should be enough.
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