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    Re: U.S. Wants to Make It Easier to Wiretap the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    It's also the responsibility of users to protect their own computers from intrusion from hackers.
    This is true, but what does this have to do with the government mandating the companies make their **** less secure for the sole purpose the of the government being able to spy on people?

    If you don't like windows having a backdoor, then don't use windows.
    Did the government mandate that Microsoft have a backdoor in their products?

    There are other better platforms now anyway.
    Become one of the 10 people on the whole entire planet who use Linux or Mac? No thank you. I actually like to do stuff with my computer like play new video games without the aid of a emulator or convert files. The only emulators I have on my computer are for video game consoles. Less bugs,spyware and viruses due to scarcity is not a selling point nor is a lack of compatibility.


    I'm sure if such a backdoor becomes made, people on the net will find a way to compensate. They always do, because they are smarter than the government when it comes to computers.
    If the government mandated that companies make their products less secure why wouldn't they make it illegal for you or I to make our stuff a 100% secure? Perceived government incompetence is no reason to let the government do what ever they want to do.
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    Re: U.S. Wants to Make It Easier to Wiretap the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    It's also the responsibility of users to protect their own computers from intrusion from hackers. If you don't like windows having a backdoor, then don't use windows. There are other better platforms now anyway. I'm sure if such a backdoor becomes made, people on the net will find a way to compensate. They always do, because they are smarter than the government when it comes to computers.

    Very little that the government does to control the internet is going to have a meaningful effect to the demographic that has something to hide. Those people know how to keep their stuff encrypted regardless of backdoors being made.

    I'm not saying I support it, but as long as a warrant is needed then that's at least a step in the right direction away from Bush era wiretap laws.
    You gotta be kidding with me.... It's the government that wants to install those backdoors into your computer! And if they get their way, it doesn't matter what OS you use, it's gonna come with a backdoor for the government to carry out their warrants.

    It's like this. We all have deadbolts and railings on the windows to protect against break-ins, right? Well, what happens if the government wants your to stop using them. Like firefighters needs to enter the building quicker, so they banned the usage of the deadbolts or ban the use of the window rails. This is not the best example, but you get my drift.

    And this little change is a fundamental change of how encryption works. It works that were is a key that unlocks the lock. Now, it's gonna be this key and a government key.... Now how to ensure that "government key" isn't going to be duplicated or released to the public. If that happens and people are already switched over, then hackers can take that duplicated key and start unlocking all the doors.

    Warrants can only go so far, it is to collect information when there is enough grounds for it. But to harm the entire security infrastructure just because it will help get wiretaps faster, just no.
    We the People of the United States,... provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare....
    Where did it ever say, promote for the common defence, and provide the general Welfare..... Please don't mix up the two....

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    Re: U.S. Wants to Make It Easier to Wiretap the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Become one of the 10 people on the whole entire planet who use Linux or Mac? No thank you. I actually like to do stuff with my computer like play new video games without the aid of a emulator or convert files. The only emulators I have on my computer are for video game consoles. Less bugs,spyware and viruses due to scarcity is not a selling point nor is a lack of compatibility.
    Security through obscurity is good and all, but that's not true security. It's like living in a rural area. Sure you can keep the doors unlocked, but if someone specifically targets you, such as a corporate employee on their new macbook pro that handles sensitive information? Mind as well leave that notebook on the bus and don't mind setting up a password or encrypting the thing.
    We the People of the United States,... provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare....
    Where did it ever say, promote for the common defence, and provide the general Welfare..... Please don't mix up the two....

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