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    Re: Congress prepares to punt, spend the fall campaigning

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So I don't get this. Are you supporting Obama's presidency against those who attack him for things that he isn't (Muslim, socialist, etc.)? Or are you criticizing Obama's presidency for being based around Islam and socialism? Or are you criticizing Obama's presidency for being so easy for partisan hacks to attack?
    he's a LOSER

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    Re: Congress prepares to punt, spend the fall campaigning

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Not solely a direct democracy but rather a check that involves direct democracy. After all, the 10th Amendment says that powers not given to the federal government are reserved to the states and to the people. In my view, that's a Constitutional justification for it.
    I think you would have to pass a Constitutional Amendment to be able to do this as the government uses the "General Welfare" clause of Article I, section 8 to usurp unlimited power to do anything they want to do...... and they won't give that up without a fight.

    Oregon uses what you are talking about (grass root ballot measures) to pass or stop laws that "the people" don't want or do want...... and it works, so I'm all for your idea.
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    Re: Congress prepares to punt, spend the fall campaigning

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    he's a LOSER
    Okay. Thanks for answering the question.

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    Re: Congress prepares to punt, spend the fall campaigning

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I think you would have to pass a Constitutional Amendment to be able to do this as the government uses the "General Welfare" clause of Article I, section 8 to usurp unlimited power to do anything they want to do...... and they won't give that up without a fight.

    Oregon uses what you are talking about (grass root ballot measures) to pass or stop laws that "the people" don't want or do want...... and it works, so I'm all for your idea.
    At the very least it would require a law passed by Congress and signed by the President, and the Supreme Court would have to uphold the law and rule that this law is constutional and isn't a case of Congress delegating some of it's powers to another party (the reason why the law that granted the President line-item veto powers during the Clinton Administration as unconstitutional.) However, in order to prevent a future Congress from passing a law repealing it, yes, a Constitutional Amendment would be required.

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    Re: Congress prepares to punt, spend the fall campaigning

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    he's a LOSER
    Two loser presidents in a row. Hard to say which did more damage.
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