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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Ayers served his sentence. Unless he is currently engaging in terrorist activities, you're only name-calling because you disagree with his views.
    He dedicated a book to an assassin.

    You really think this is a simple disagreement of views?
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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    He dedicated a book to an assassin.

    You really think this is a simple disagreement of views?
    Yeah, I do. Again, the guy has served his sentence. If you dont like his views, that's fine. But he DOES have the right to express them, regardless of what they are. Calling him a terrorist is stupid because he ISN'T a terrorist. It'd be like me calling you a pedophile; it's stupid because it isn't (I trust) true. Unless you can show there is current evidence that he is currently involved in terrorist activities, he's a radical but not a terrorist.
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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Ayers served his sentence. Unless he is currently engaging in terrorist activities, you're only name-calling because you disagree with his views.
    This is not a disagreement of views. The man was a piece of **** terrorist. The idea that any place of education would even higher a piece of **** like that in the first place is unconscionable.
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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Ayers is a former terrorist, yes. What he did was wrong. His choice to honour a killer is bizarre, at best, and really poor taste.

    However, his educational work is worthwhile, despite his politics. I don't disagree with his basic pedagogy and research contributions. He's a good education professor/teacher.

    Regarding terrorism, it's a bit hypocritical of an American to condemn Ayers without also condemning the United States government, which has been a huge sponser of terrorism around the world, from 1900-present. Most American political heroes had no problem using violence against innocent people to achieve political or economic ends. They even trained terrorists...so long as they were blowing others up. There's little moral difference between terrorism through the pen 1000 miles away and what Ayers did. In fact, we have done worse.

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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Ayers is a pretty cool guy, I hung out with him a few times. This is lame.
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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Kudos to the trustees.

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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    y'all don't seem to recall the nyt article that appeared, thru the most peculiar of parallels, on 9-11, 2001, the day the wtc's fell

    No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives - In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen - NYTimes.com

    "i don't regret setting bombs, i feel we didn't do enough"

    didn't do enough of what, professor ayers?

    william ayers, 1970: "''kill all the rich people, break up their cars and apartments, bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"

    all the libs who aren't libs, the commies who recant, the obama supporters who never voted for him---they sure appear to apologize a lot

    you may be so stuck inside your doctrinaire ideals you can't see out

    but normal nates and nells know hate for what it is

    it's unmistakable

    shame

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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Oh come on, Ayers just dedicated a book to the man that shot his father. Whats the big deal?

    /sarcasm


    The better question is how did that piece of trash get to be a professor in the first place?
    I want to know what Obama has on the 5th Column Lame Stream Media that makes them let that WPOG get away with having people like Ayers ans Cimmies ans the rest and they say not a GD word about it. If bush had ever had anyone that was one tenth as radical as Obama is they would still be calling him a traitor.

    I don't get it Chris Mathews even outed himself over Obama with that tingle up his leg remark, and I have seen video of him saying it more than once.

    Aryers is only one of the list of frightening people Obama calls his pals and it's sickeniing.
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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Yeah, I do. Again, the guy has served his sentence. If you dont like his views, that's fine. But he DOES have the right to express them, regardless of what they are. Calling him a terrorist is stupid because he ISN'T a terrorist. It'd be like me calling you a pedophile; it's stupid because it isn't (I trust) true. Unless you can show there is current evidence that he is currently involved in terrorist activities, he's a radical but not a terrorist.
    Using your logic, doesn't texmaster have the right to call the person a terrorist if that is his view. Even if you think he is a reformed terrorist.

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    Re: Controversial UIC professor denied emeritus status

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Ayers served his sentence. Unless he is currently engaging in terrorist activities, you're only name-calling because you disagree with his views.
    well last I checked Bundy and Manson haven't murdered anyone in YEARS and Boesky hasn't been accused of scamming anyone in a while either. FAIL



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