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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    He wasn't outed when someone went through his private email?



    Major Almy had an undergraduate degree in Information Technology, which he utilized in his shorten AF career.



    Further



    Lt. Col. Fehrenbach






    Where's yours?



    It's amazing how you and so many others believe a law was broken by the victim, based on your prejudice.


    Yes, many cons are.
    Emails sent from a combat zone, aren't private, just like regular mail and telephone calls. Major Almy should have been more careful.

    If he's no smarter than that, he doesn't deserve to be a senior officer in the United States military, anyway.

    The Air Force began investigating Fehrenbach in May 2008, after a man he met on the Internet spent an evening at his home and then accused him of rape. Fehrenbach admitted he is gay to police but denied the rape accusation. He was never charged, but Boise police told Fehrenbach’s command that he admitted to being gay.
    There's always another side to these stories...LMAO!!!!

    Fehrenbach violated DADT by telling, so there's no need for sympathy there.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated



    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Since when does a civilian judge have the authority to critique military personnel practices?
    Easy question to answer but might sound complicated

    Our Military unlike some in other Countries is controlled by a Civilian the President under our Constitution which controls everything in theory.

    The Supreme decides what is Contitutional in the end but lower Federal Courts can intercede when ever there is a question on the Constitutionality of any item.

    So one might think the Supreme Court is the ultimate power in the land however the Supreme Court Justices may be impeached by the House of Representatives and removed from office if convicted in a Senate trial, but only for the same types of offenses that would trigger impeachment proceedings for any other government official under Articles I and II of the Constitution.

    Remember to impeach means only to bring charges. To remove someone like the President they are tried in the Senate once charges are brought for high crimes and misdemeanors and are removed when founf guilty.

    So then everyone is answerable to the Constitution and the Court and through use of checks and balances each branch of Government is answerable to another the true Ultimate power is in the voting booth of WE THE PEOPLE who decide who is put in the positions of authority and when we decide they are no longer doing as we wish them to do.

    We vote them out od office. At least that was the plan of our faonding fathers who never would have believed that we would ever become so partisan that we would vote for anyone just because they are it a certain party regardless how useless and corrupt they have become.

    Charley Rangle comes to mind for corrupt and John Mc Cain for useless.

    I hope you get this.

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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated - CNN.com

    I do applaud the Judge standing up for this woman.

    HOWEVER!

    If stuff like this makes it harder to get rid of DADT all together then I don't support his decision.

    As at least one particular person I've seen (and we all know who that is) that claims that repealing DADT gives gays special priviledge... it doesn't. Gays just want to be able to serve their country openly and proudly as WHO THEY ARE. If you have a problem with that, damn do I feel sorry for you.

    Constitution this, and constitution that, declaration of independence this RA RA RA RA...

    Guess all men aren't created equal eh...

    And please, if you're gonna cite "Where is sexual orientation protected under the constitution?"

    If you're a true believer in freedom, then you should demand that it is, explicitely expressed.
    That judges ruling has the same power is this eurotrash judge in Spain resuming a torture case against Bush administration lawyers and that judge that ruled DADT is unconstitutional. A waste of time and meaningless.

    Spanish judge resumes torture case against six senior Bush lawyers | Andy Worthington
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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated

    Activist judging at it's finest, and I'm loving every ruling of it.

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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated

    The "Witt Standard," i.e., that the government must prove that removing the particular individual protected unit effectiveness, will be more immediate and effective in voiding DADT than the recent court unconstitutional decision. DADT is just about done.
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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Activist judging at it's finest, and I'm loving every ruling of it.
    What good is the ruling if it meaningless? If a judge has no jurisdiction then the ruling is a waste of time and unenforceable. You might as well be cheering a mock jury verdict.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Easy question to answer but might sound complicated
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    I hope you get this.
    Mechanics understood. So apparently the judge has consulted the emanations and penumbras of the Constitution and decided that the political decision to go with DADT is somehow unconstitutional? How long do you suppose it will take for this case to reach SCOTUS?
    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Emails sent from a combat zone, aren't private, just like regular mail and telephone calls. Major Almy should have been more careful.

    If he's no smarter than that, he doesn't deserve to be a senior officer in the United States military, anyway.
    Air Force policy on the subject has been linked in this very thread. It was violated in attaining the email used to discharge him.
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    Re: Judge orders lesbian Air Force nurse reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Mechanics understood. So apparently the judge has consulted the emanations and penumbras of the Constitution and decided that the political decision to go with DADT is somehow unconstitutional? How long do you suppose it will take for this case to reach SCOTUS?
    Best guess is about 2 years to reach SCOTUS. For those claiming that the civilian court has no authority, the discharge was under US law, so US courts do in fact have the authority to rule.
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