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    Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    One of the most sophisticated pieces of malware ever detected was probably targeting "high value" infrastructure in Iran, experts have told the BBC.

    Stuxnet's complexity suggests it could only have been written by a "nation state", some researchers have claimed.
    BBC News - Stuxnet worm 'targeted high-value Iranian assets'

    Its only speculation but it seems to have been developed by a country considering its size, complexity and its specificness. How awesome is that story, they should make a movie about it.

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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    Gonna take a wild guess and say Israel might have an interest in such an action.
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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gonna take a wild guess and say Israel might have an interest in such an action.
    Could be an entire list of nations ranging from Israel to the US to some members of the EU. So far it's just speculation that this was even a nation making this malware. I bet you there are coders out there who could make the most sophisticated viruses ever in under a day in their basement. Remember, it took some kid in Europe 14 hours to crack the state-of-the-art protection on DVDs.
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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gonna take a wild guess and say Israel might have an interest in such an action.
    You gotta admit, if it is, they do a pretty good job, much more subtle than an F-15I.
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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gonna take a wild guess and say Israel might have an interest in such an action.

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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    I think they did make a movie about a kid computer junkie who hacks into the DOD computer in side Cheyenne Mountain. It was Titled War Games with Mathew Broderick.

    It was a good movie.

    This being real life it does sound at first thought like a Government sponsored attack but there are some true geniuses at computers who are pretty young and have contests to see who can get into most secure systems and screw it up or just look around.

    I happen to know a kid who was 15 years old when he built his own computer that out preformed the one I spent a bundle on. He claimed it was no big deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce
    Gonna take a wild guess and say Israel might have an interest in such an action.
    This quote is almost a double DUH! candidate.
    Last edited by Councilman; 09-25-10 at 03:52 AM.

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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Could be an entire list of nations ranging from Israel to the US to some members of the EU. So far it's just speculation that this was even a nation making this malware. I bet you there are coders out there who could make the most sophisticated viruses ever in under a day in their basement. Remember, it took some kid in Europe 14 hours to crack the state-of-the-art protection on DVDs.
    First, the DVD "encryption" wasn't close to being state-of-the-art. It is what they could afford to put into DVDs and it relied on obfuscation which is not an effective form of protection.

    Next, the nature of the attack, is that is on control systems. It isn't that most hackers don't have access to the codes in these control systems (and they mostly don't) but that there is little to be gained for a hacker to go after an industrial control system.

    Hacking a control system is not that hard, once you get in. They rely on physical security more than anything else. If some hacker had done this and developed the method of penetrating the physical security, they probably would not have been so selective in what kind of system they attacked after they got in.

    It is a reasonable conclusion that this was state sponsored. The list of possibilities is long.

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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    These people either stole or cracked Verisign certificateS to use with Stuxnet. They exploited four different Windows vulnerabilities, two of which were previously undiscovered. It travels from USB stick to computers w/o the user having to do anything but insert the USB stick. This is not a run of the mill script-kiddie nor something a grad student cooked up in his basement apartment.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    I was at a seminar about Computer hacking-especially out of Russia and China and some of the reverse stings that the FBI engineered. But the most interesting and illuminating story involved some American teenager who supposedly started some nasty virus that cost a bunch of businesses a bunch of money. Well before the kid could be brought to trial, he disappeared. No conclusive evidence, no indictments, no arrests but the best explanation was one of the companies called in a cleaner and made "the problem disappear".

    The guy doing the lecture noted that some of the hackers who start this sort of crap haven't figured out that if you cost somebody alot of money they might call in a contract on you.



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    Re: Computer Virus so specialized "could only be a weapon"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No conclusive evidence, no indictments, no arrests but the best explanation was one of the companies called in a cleaner and made "the problem disappear".
    Not that that isn't a great story, but how is a conspiracy theory ever the "best explanation" for anything? A teenage kid about to be put on trial who disappeared? I'd say the "best explanation" is that he took a dive off Lover's Leap and they haven't found the body yet. Tell me, TD, do you also believe in another "best explanation" that involved a grassy knoll?

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