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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Binky View Post
    Well now............I can certainly understand why most of the house members didn't even flinch and crack a smile... It seems Mr. Colbert doesn't know how to control what comes out of his mouth. But when you stop and think about it, neither do some politicians, preachers, professors etc. and on and on we go..... But that's what you get when you allow a commedian into a political house of ill puke. That's what they do. It comes natural to them to spiel out the gobbily goop because that's what they are used to doing....He showed his ass and allowed the world to see he was a racist. If it didn't know before, it sure as heck does now.....
    I'm sorry, but it was known before he went that he would be testifying in character. Also I didn't hear anything racist. Do you have something to back that up or are you talking about where he said he didn't want his tomatoes picked by a mexican? If so, it might help to listen to what he said after that. Believe me, I am not a Colbert fan, but I don't want to see anyone treated the way Beck and Limbaugh are everytime something is taken out of context.
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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think it's less likely that the media (which is made up of individuals who probably like Colbert) has some ridiculous vendetta against Colbert and more just that Congressional hearings about actual important issues are not the place for TV comedians to perform skits.

    In terms of numbers, how much do you think illegal immigrants affect the price of food?
    Colbert's testimony was "in character" his facts were not.
    Colbert to Congress: What would Jesus do about migrant farm workers? [VIDEO] | Grist
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    Kudos to Comedy Central host Stephen Colbert for spotlighting how schizophrenic Americans are when it comes to an unpopular issue -- immigration -- despite how these much-maligned migrant workers are the linchpin of America's beloved cheap-food system.

    Colbert appeared with United Farm Workers (UFW) President Arturo S. Rodriguez today to testify before Congress for a hearing called "Protecting America's Harvest" held by the House Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law.

    He testified in character about a day he spent working in the fields, having taken up the UFW on its dare to American citizens "take our jobs." It was apparently a rough day for the comedian: "Please don't make me do this again. It is really, really hard ... Apparently, even the invisible hand doesn't want to pick beans," he told Congress.
    You tell me how much you think our food would cost if the labor were by US citizens?

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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
    You tell me how much you think our food would cost if the labor were by US citizens?
    Our economy is set to enable and really entice immigrants to our country. It isn't that Americans aren't willing, it's more like - why should they?

    About the Colbert thing, had the law makers paid attention (like we pay them to do), it would have been funny. They were afraid to laugh as it might send the wrong signal and offend someone. Besides, it was no where near the joke of the Iraq war hearing. Unsure what folks are complaining about...
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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Our economy is set to enable and really entice immigrants to our country. It isn't that Americans aren't willing, it's more like - why should they?

    About the Colbert thing, had the law makers paid attention (like we pay them to do), it would have been funny. They were afraid to laugh as it might send the wrong signal and offend someone. Besides, it was no where near the joke of the Iraq war hearing. Unsure what folks are complaining about...
    The problem people are having is two fold. He was testifying in character making light of a very serious issue. It was not like past celebrities who believe and are being serious in their cause.

    The second issue is with the economy as bad as it is with as many issues in front of Congress we spent over 100k an hour listening to a comedian in character testifying in front of the Senate. I'm sure the money and time could have been spent better.
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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    The problem people are having is two fold. He was testifying in character making light of a very serious issue. It was not like past celebrities who believe and are being serious in their cause.

    The second issue is with the economy as bad as it is with as many issues in front of Congress we spent over 100k an hour listening to a comedian in character testifying in front of the Senate. I'm sure the money and time could have been spent better.
    While it is a serious issue, it's not so serious that a little humor can't be added to it. One can still make fairly valid points in a humorous way. I think you should lighten up a tad.

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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    While it is a serious issue, it's not so serious that a little humor can't be added to it. One can still make fairly valid points in a humorous way. I think you should lighten up a tad.
    I wouldn't mind humor but couldn't they get Lewis Black? Colbert is just... weak.
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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    While it is a serious issue, it's not so serious that a little humor can't be added to it.
    Actually yes it is.

    One can still make fairly valid points in a humorous way. I think you should lighten up a tad.
    Tell them that

    Crime victims of illegal aliens


    If you were in a border state you wouldn't find the prospect of trivializing this issue funny at all.
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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Tell them that

    Crime victims of illegal aliens


    If you were in a border state you wouldn't find the prospect of trivializing this issue funny at all.
    I believe you may have missed the entire point of Colbert's statements. There was nothing trivial about it and the satire was actually not bad. Because they didn't respond to him, his timing was off making it not seem funny.

    His argument was two fold:
    1. We are in a global economy.
    2. Make it attractive so Americans will want the job

    I disagree with #2, but always enjoy a good Colbert satire - it's good for the ears...of corn.
    About #2 above, I say we need to make it LESS attractive for immigrants to want to be here to begin with.
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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    I believe you may have missed the entire point of Colbert's statements. There was nothing trivial about it and the satire was actually not bad. Because they didn't respond to him, his timing was off making it not seem funny.

    His argument was two fold:
    1. We are in a global economy.
    2. Make it attractive so Americans will want the job

    I disagree with #2, but always enjoy a good Colbert satire - it's good for the ears...of corn.
    About #2 above, I say we need to make it LESS attractive for immigrants to want to be here to begin with.
    I don't believe I missed the point at all. Lets look at his words:

    "This is America. I don't want a tomato picked by a Mexican. I want it picked by an American, then sliced by a Guatemalan and served by a Venezuelan in a spa where a Chilean gives me a Brazilian."

    And:

    "America's farms are presently far too dependent on immigrant labor to pick our fruits and vegetables. Now the obvious answer is for all of us to stop eating fruits and vegetables, and if you look at the recent obesity statistics, you'll see that many Americans have already started."

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    I'm not seeing the humor in either of those statements. And when he ignores the crime and human trafficking results of pushing more illegal immigrants into this country so farmers can exploit cheap labor I believe he is trivializing the issue by ignoring some of the key parts of it.


    I agree we need to make it less attractive to work here illegally but the result of illegal immigration is not just cheap labor but all the factors from strained resources of hospitals and schools to the crime they bring with them. All of this must be put on the table for an honest discussion on the issue.
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    Re: Colbert Offers Comedy Shtick in Farm Workers Testimony, Fails to Amuse Lawmakers

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I agree we need to make it less attractive to work here illegally but the result of illegal immigration is not just cheap labor but all the factors from strained resources of hospitals and schools to the crime they bring with them. All of this must be put on the table for an honest discussion on the issue.
    Absolutely. I could not agree with the above statement more.

    However, you are adding context that was not at the discussion to begin with.

    Illegal immigration is a strain on just about everything in our economy. Crime, education, labor blue and white collar and even politics. The question is if you de-humanize them (treating inhuman - throwing them out because they are "bad people") or do you fix the problems (like NAFTA, welfare, drivers license, free college education) that gives them incentive to come here to begin with? I vote for the later.
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